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    Posted: 18 Mar 08 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by Sprint Bob

so it is impossible to give them an appropriate PY that can be justified to the rest of the sailors who sail under different rules.


Why is this different from any other class that has spectacular differences in performance in different conditions, be it Thames Raters, foiler Moths or even 420s? You should just set a PY that averages out over a series. Anything else is just anti board discrimination...


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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Sprint Bob

so it is impossible to give them an appropriate PY that can be justified to the rest of the sailors who sail under different rules.


Why is this different from any other class that has spectacular differences in performance in different conditions, be it Thames Raters, foiler Moths or even 420s? You should just set a PY that averages out over a series. Anything else is just anti board discrimination...

Corr - it is hard to justify to a big fleet of mono sailors why they should sail against a sail board when he pumps his way round the whole course on a light wind day. It is not discrimination against boards - they have different rules. If they get a number to attend they would get their own prizes..........
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Originally posted by oz man

its never nice to be over taken is it

being passed by a 49er while in a topper probably isnt that great either dont see many clubs turning them away though



My club turns them away.  Hobie Tigers too; despite allowing F18 cats and Tempests (which scare the bits off me).

Apparently it's all based on an unbiased "risk assesment system".  Though one suspects that the appliers of said system don't much like skiffs and only like fast cats if they also like their owners! (though to be fair, the F18 owner is pretty damned good).

.. but our cats do race in the same handicap series, though normally with a separate start.




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The Hobie Tiger is an F18, so if they're allowing other F18s maybe have a word to find out what the differences are that make the Tiger more dangerous.

Other than the fact that tigers are pretty scary animals.
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Originally posted by NickA

Originally posted by oz man

its never nice to be over taken is it

being passed by a 49er while in a topper probably isnt that great either dont see many clubs turning them away though



My club turns them away.  Hobie Tigers too; despite allowing F18 cats and Tempests (which scare the bits off me).

Apparently it's all based on an unbiased "risk assesment system".  Though one suspects that the appliers of said system don't much like skiffs and only like fast cats if they also like their owners! (though to be fair, the F18 owner is pretty damned good).

.. but our cats do race in the same handicap series, though normally with a separate start.


Which club is that?

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