New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: These New Road Trailers
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

These New Road Trailers

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 6>
Author
423zero View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 08 Jan 15
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3420
Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: These New Road Trailers
    Posted: 09 Feb 16 at 5:03pm
They tried to force annual mot's on caravans, but caravan club successfully campaigned against it, did the RYA have any input into this ?
Back to Top
gordon1277 View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 24 Mar 10
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 665
Post Options Post Options   Quote gordon1277 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 16 at 5:27pm
Looking at the RYA site they did concentrate on some other legislation which they won the argument on, I think but for them we would be having to have certification for all trailers. which would cost us lots more.
Gordon
Lossc
Back to Top
iGRF View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 11
Location: Hythe
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6499
Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 16 at 5:35pm
Originally posted by davidyacht

Excellent reason to leave the EU
I took delivery of a brand new ISO complient trailer.  One of the lightboard securing bolts shook loose on the way to Weymouth, the arm dragged along the road and the light board was written off ... never had this problem before in 30 years of trailering 
... I have reverted to hanging the lightboard on the transom, with the mast resting on top.  Lightboard secures to pintles with retaining clip, and mast held in place with single piece bungee. I use the spare end if the boat securing strap to add a turn around the middle of the mast for a bit of belt and braces.


I had this exact same issue, think it was the trailer that came with the last new boat I bought the 100 probably they are not much use at all. I reverted to the pintle hanging device supplied by Barton I think they're called, it does the job just fine and contains the mast.
Back to Top
Noah View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 29 Dec 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 611
Post Options Post Options   Quote Noah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Feb 16 at 5:44pm
I guess that the legislation might cover the manufacture of the trailers to a particular standard. Does it also mandate where the lighting board should be placed?

Fortunately in these days of policing by cameras they can't spot that, and one would hope that a sensible constable - even if he knew the detail of this law - would use his discretion when inspecting the security of the rig.
Nick
D-Zero 316

Back to Top
skslr View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 24 Jul 06
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 139
Post Options Post Options   Quote skslr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 8:58am

In Germany we always have and still are trailering dinghies even though we are not allowed to put the lighting board on the transom. 

(In fact dinghy trailers already benefit from an exemption as trailer lighting would need to be absolutey fixed to the base trailer and not be removable otherwise.)

A lightly tensioned strap around the hull and the “extensions” supporting the board will stop them from bouncing up and down and life just goes on.

I understand that it the other way is quicker and I definitely would like our trailers to be cheaper (even when not paying HARBECK prices), but I always wondered why people think it is a good idea to put all the stress from the vibrating/shaking lighthing board and mast on the poor rudder pintles.

Back to Top
Cirrus View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 29 Oct 15
Location: UK
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 590
Post Options Post Options   Quote Cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:02am

A lightly tensioned strap around the hull and the “extensions” supporting the board will stop them from bouncing up and down and life just goes on.

Without a full regulation detail in place on 'elastics' that sounds a bit suspect itself.  Surely the 'load' should not be involved in any way as that is the 'logic' in place in any event behind these crazy extension bars .  While we are at it define 'light tension' - believe me somebody will if any potential litigation can be sniffed out !!  

Why not come up with a proper engineering solution if you must  ....  or recognise we have always been required to have appropriate lighting anyway. 

Should have been in an 'exempted' category if anyone had bothered to argue the case from a positon of some expertise / knowledge.  BTW .... All this is only partially to do with Brussels - we already have our own set of bureaucrats working under umbrella 'SI's' to screw things up from a remote desk somewhere in the UK and have done for decades.    They also now have a very convenient 'Brussels excuse' to go alongside the all to readily used 'Computer Error' story to hide behind.    



Edited by Cirrus - 10 Feb 16 at 2:25pm
Back to Top
RS400atC View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 04 Dec 08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3011
Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:11am
People with powerboats have managed OK with these fixings for years.
If your average speedboat driver can cope, how hard can it be?
Not saying they couldn't be improved!
I'm sure I'm not the only person who's worn away the corners of their lighting board after failing to lash it securely enough to an empty trailer?
What really annoys me about dinghy trailers is the terrible suspension, which hardly moves. Why does an RS400 trailer need to be rated at 350kg?
Back to Top
jeffers View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 29 Mar 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3048
Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:20am
Originally posted by RS400atC

People with powerboats have managed OK with these fixings for years.
If your average speedboat driver can cope, how hard can it be?
Not saying they couldn't be improved!
I'm sure I'm not the only person who's worn away the corners of their lighting board after failing to lash it securely enough to an empty trailer?
What really annoys me about dinghy trailers is the terrible suspension, which hardly moves. Why does an RS400 trailer need to be rated at 350kg?

I would guess because it is one of the 'standard' family of trailer (220, 250, 275) so may end up carrying something other than a 400 which is a lot heavier.
Paul
----------------------
D-Zero GBR 74
Back to Top
ventus View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie


Joined: 10 Jul 15
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 43
Post Options Post Options   Quote ventus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:20am
Rs400atc you are so correct. That's one of the reasons it was such a pleasure to buy a sovereign trailer from Welsh harp and have the correct rated suspension units.
Back to Top
getafix View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 28 Mar 06
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2143
Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:34am
"I have no idea what this is all about" and that is exactly what I will tell the police if a) they stop me and b) have any clue about this themselves to the point where they ask me about it.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 6>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy