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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Chris - coming to a forum aimed at racers and blathering on about the joys of pottering and lecturing people on why they are wrong is pretty annoying, especially when the thing you are advocating for us to do will have zero effect on stopping the spread of C19. I know you mention you are a Boomer in your signature, but sir, you are setting a new standard in Bommer.
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Chris_H ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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Oh FFS. I am not stopping anyone doing anything. Get your head out of your arse. I am trying to put perspective on things. Chill out man.
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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If you can tell me how racing with seven people is going to increase the spread of C19 I will agree with you. If its just that you are wired to love rules more than common sense then please stop "twitching yer curtains" and chill out. Ta
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I do not disagree with you, but no one has ever tried to stop you just going for a pootle when you want. If you like drfiting around then fill ya boots.....but why are you interested in stopping the rest of us go racing? Whats your motivation for that? We let you do your thing...
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Chris_H ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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Goodness me people, 'kin chill out.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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WOW, heard it all now, disagreeing with certain people on here is akin to jumping off Durdle door, plus it shouldn't be discussed on a public forum, because people disagree, WOW again, you need to think, you are not trying to reduce your tax bill
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Chris_H ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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I dunno why people cant just enjoy the buzz of leisure sailing and being on the water. Why this drive to go racing so quickly? It will come in time. I know my view is not so popular on here, as most here are dedicated racers, and hence why they are on this forum - but somewhere along the way, and a part reason why sailing is declining (amongst many other factors) is that "sailing" has now become defined as "racing". We forget that to get to racing, you need to go sailing first, enjoy it, - and thats why you took up the sport in the first place. Just chill, sail, enjoy. We are very lucky people even to be able to do this ... Edited by Chris_H - 03 Jun 20 at 4:35pm |
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Mozzy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 209 |
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But, more than anything I agree with what H2 says above. Those on the FB groups calling out more than 6 boats as illegal gatherings just strikes me a missing the point. We're trying to limit the spread of the virus, whilst sustaining some for of quality of life, physical and mental health and normality.
Exposure isn't just about distance. Seven people in a location by coincidence isn't safer than six who messaged about it first on whatsapp. A fleeting moment of two laser sailors being within 2m isn't more risky than an evening sat 3m from an elderly relative. There is a danger that we become too hung up on absolutes rather than applying pragmatism and common sense. |
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Chris_H ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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I am going to sit on the fence with regards to Common Sense vs Rules. However, with respect to Shared vs Common, I think your interpretion is flawed. You have a Shared Purpose with respect to racing as you are racing against EACH OTHER - the Shared purpose being to beat each other - however that format actually happens. A common Purpose would be - just to go Sailing It is semantics anyway, so not taking a side on it.
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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Any sailors/clubs using line starts etc will automatically be accused of carrying out 'organised' events
There may be no significant risk etc but that's not the point If a number of sailors arrange something between themselves on the water that's another thing entirely For now we just need to be grateful to be back on the water and create as little in the way of 'waves' as possible A bit of informal practice (rabbit races etc as sensible) with a few others surely is fine for now ? (and may still be pushing the current guidelines ?) Lots of sailors would snap your hands off for this (many clubs still not sailing) Rushing things now and creating embarrassing headlines is not a good idea And yes- some people will wave the 'rule' book and say we shouldn't do this or that but that's their opinion and they don't have to sail. In reality we are far more likely to have an accident driving/cycling to the club/work etc than we are likely to catch/spread CV or have an incident when sensibly sailing Typical UK - follow every 'rule' to the letter without actually analysing it Perhaps just debating this on a public forum is also not a great idea ? (especially if some posters are actively discouraging certain activities ?) Edited by rich96 - 03 Jun 20 at 4:20pm |
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