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ellistine 
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Now I know I'm new to all this but what's with the upside down pointy bows? My italian's not too hot so what other details do you have |
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ellistine
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Posted: 19 Mar 08 at 5:06pm |
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I'm about 13 stone and the crew's about 12?????? Edited by ellistine |
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ASok
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Posted: 19 Mar 08 at 5:37pm |
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Dart 18 every time - but then I biased as I own one. They can be sailed in varying ranges of winds and have the best cat racing fleet in the country. I would suggest talking to Cat-bitz down your way and maybe arranging a test sail. For what its worth, the Hobie is great for surfing and running up beaches, but has limited appeal for me.
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English Dave
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Posted: 19 Mar 08 at 6:35pm |
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At your weight you are probably too heavy for both boats - if you were racing. The D18 will hold your weight better than the Hobie.
I'm personally not keen on either boats but they represent a cheap entry into cat sailing. But cat designs have come on a lot in the past 30 years and the more modern boats are faster and better mannered. You can put two trapezes on a D18. The mast is no weaker that the Hobie. Just not class legal, that's all. |
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ellistine
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Posted: 19 Mar 08 at 9:09pm |
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From what I can work out, a lot of the modern cats that are a sensible price for a first boat seem to be rotomolded. Would love a stealth but I'd never get it past the GF |
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TornadoSi
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Posted: 20 Mar 08 at 12:37pm |
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All modern designs are heading this way, Capricorn,Nacra and A Class all use swept back bow shapes to a varying degree, keeps the buoyancy low down and as forward as possible to maximise the overall lenght. In short keeps the platform stable and minimises pitching, pitchpoling !!! The X16 is a very versatile boat it is very light, can be sailed by 1 or 2 people, the boat can be used for pleasure saling, training or racing. The class is really taking off in France and Italy and we think is the ideal boat to fill the gap between the rotomoulded boats and the likes of Dart 18 / Spitfire etc |
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ellistine
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Posted: 20 Mar 08 at 1:26pm |
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How much?
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Posted: 20 Mar 08 at 1:47pm |
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Ellistine you have PM
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Catsrule
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Nacra 500 is what you want. Can be sailed one handed or two handed, kite or no kite, can be used for crusing or racing, and no boards to worry about. And they're very quick both upwind and downwind.
Heres the nacra uk website: http://nacra.chararty.com/home.php and theres loads of pics of them sailing in the gallery Here is one out at weston sailing club, i'm was crewing on it in these pics and man was it fun. I helmed it aslo and they do go. |
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English Dave
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Posted: 20 Mar 08 at 11:30pm |
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Don't forget guys, that Ellistine has just passed his RYA Level 1. And if his GF won't let his wallet near a Stealth then the X16 and N500 are probably also out of the question.
Spending £1200 on a D18 will get him in the game and give him a flavour of it all. It's not as accomplished a design as the more modern offerings but it's still quicker than 95% of monos and quick and easy to rig. |
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