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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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Thing is Helen, the Bloody Mary does not allow Cats. I agree with Shadowman, Cat sailing is not getting the appropiate exposure IMO. |
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Canvey Pirate ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Nov 06 Location: Algeria Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
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I agree with shadowman that Y&Y and even Dinghy Mag do little in reporting grass roots of cat sailing. Even with Helen sarcasm and trapezing tips from Hugh Styles, which you already probably covered the year before the mag only wants to report the in fleets and the big budget manufactures. So to finish on Helen comments that we might miss bits while glansing at the newagents. I hate to say thats all you need to do if you are reading the multi section looking for grass roots cat sailing. These are just my thoughts
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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What size of event do you need to have before Y&Y will give more than a cursory glance? If we have 60+ boats at the Hurricane Europeans this summer, will Y&Y send someone to cover it or, better still, enter a boat? I know it's Northern Ireland but flights are cheap and, if it helps, I'll pick you up from the airport. Canvey is only 50/50 at the mo so you could borrow his boat. (Mark, the commute from Algeria to Canvey must be a cow-son). Didn't catch the Hugh Styles article but I'm guessing that it went along the lines of "Crew lower than helm, trap high in medium winds and waves, low in a flat breeze. Forward upwind but move aft downwind to keep the trim. Crew and helm stand together to reduce windage." If there was more rocket science to it than that then I apologise. To save the busy reader time in the newsagents here's the Ben Ainslie guide to hiking in full: "Lean out in the gusts." Edited by English Dave |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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I think I read that in a Magazine somewhere |
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HelenF ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
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Bloody Mary was highligted in response to dinghy sailors wanting non
single-class event reports, not cat sailors! As for whether we'll send someone to cover cat events you'll notice that we rarely 'send' people to cover any class regattas. Instead we need some help from class associations and event organisers to submit Clubs and Classes reports and keep us up to date with what's happening in their season the 2006 Racing Classes Review guide listed a massive 175 classes, there's no way we could keep on top of all them otherwise! If you've got a big or anniversary event coming up, let us know send us an email (editorial@yachtsandyachting.com) letting us know when and where and who to contact. Likewise, if you have some news that you think our Multimad, Roll tacks, or other columnists should know about, let us know and we'll pass it on. We WANT to hear from you! |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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THe thing is that we did send you umpteen reports (form the Grafham Cat open for example) that ended up on the Website, but never made it into the Mag - How did that happen ? |
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Canvey Pirate ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Nov 06 Location: Algeria Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
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Thats because you never took out a big advert. I know our fleet use to send in reports all the time, but never really made the grade until we sent in a funny report from our own Major Eyeswater. Still makes me laugh today
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charlie1019 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 28 Nov 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 173 |
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Funnily enough I did read the bloody mary report in the que. But then put it back. As for the trapezing article: its one of those things that to get better at you need to be on the water not reading about it in the bar. Yes there may have been useful coments for some, but if you've read one of the articles on trapezing... One of the articles I used to find interesting to read was the 'Dinghy Forum' written by both cat and dinghy sailors if I remember. |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Yes, Dinghy Forum was great, but my favourite bit of the mag was Pit Stop; I even used to save those pages - sad, I know...
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Shadowman ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 24 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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Helen Not only did we put umpteen reports from GWSC on the web site, we also emailed you before pointing out that the event was attracting a huge turn out and that there were about 5 championships being decided. If you want an example about how you are not covering grass roots sailing, the revival of the A Class in the UK is striking and not seen that noted at all. Can you tell us who writes your regular 3 page features with pics on RS nationals and equivalent if you don't send reporters to events ? Notice you are happy enough to send an ex employee of the company in question to write a report on its new holiday site. If you really want the feedback and leave us with a warm feeling, then maybe your cat correspondent should post in response to these crits. Y&Y is undeniably the premier mag but I am clearly not alone in thinking that it is getting out of touch with its core readership.
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