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    Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 12:37pm

Topper have always advertised the weight as 85kg. Although I seem to remember reading another thread where this weight was questioned......???

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Well i suppose once u chuck up that monster rig, a couple foils, some racks and the rest of the rigging, the weight starts knocking up to something a bit more like the boss we all know and.....  know. 

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Carbon mast and carbon racks don't weigh that much, in fact the wings are super-leight as my mate had to repair his.............
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Apparently the Boss is pretty much unbeatable downwind in sub planing conditions.
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Still going to get their arses handed to them on a plate by a Thames A rater! Anyway the whole point of skiffs (and I do not agree that a boss is a skiff...) is racing them when planing!!!
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Originally posted by redback

Apparently the Boss is pretty much unbeatable downwind in sub planing conditions.

I don't remember a Boss beating a 5000 in these conditions.The 5 is pretty  quick as well in  these winds

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bumble Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 06 at 3:54pm

Originally posted by Jon Emmett

Still going to get their arses handed to them on a plate by a Thames A rater! Anyway the whole point of skiffs (and I do not agree that a boss is a skiff...) is racing them when planing!!!
I know this has already been done - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9 86&KW=Skiff but your definition of a skiff is odd. Traditionally an open boat with a sail and no keel, but because the Aussies used it to name development classes over 100 years old, doesn't mean skiff has to mean .....'indicative of a modern Aussie racing skiff (and not an older one)' and for these boats, as you should know Jon planing is a difficult definition to satisfy.

By the definition of old (most dictionarys) the boss is a skiff. By the new 'like and Aussie racing dinghy' definition, it is a Skiff. By your own 'racing while paning' definition it is a skiff for much of the time.

I am no Boss fan, but I feel some people are being negative about the boat here because what? It is a little bit slower than the one you sail? Why not bash the topper or Ent? At the end of the day, NO SMOD's are at the limit of development and having fun on the water should not be defined by a relative concept of speed.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote 49erGBR735HSC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 12:15am
We always saw the Boss as slow older 14s, the boats could never keep up with the 5000s in all conditions but maybe that was just in Scotland?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bumble Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 6:45am
Originally posted by 49erGBR735HSC

We always saw the Boss as slow older 14s, the boats could never keep up with the 5000s in all conditions but maybe that was just in Scotland?
Could also have been the sailors.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jon Emmett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 5:38pm

I am sorry if it appears I have been too negative regards the Boss. It just seems a shame in a way we have so many small classes in the UK (where you struggle to get half a dozen boats at the Nationals).

 

I just feel it is better racing for everyone if we sail the same class (certainly a higher standard of competition)... rather than lots of different classes!

 

I guess my point is why sail a Boss IF you could sail, for example an RS 800.

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