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    Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 1:23pm
First visit for many years on Sunday
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I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit  moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route. 


I've seen the carbon boom..
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Will be up Sunday with the family, taking a few snaps and getting some video too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 2:43pm
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Originally posted by tink

I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit  moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route. 


I've seen the carbon boom..

The Carbon boom winds me up also ‘it won’t make any difference’ they say, ‘just make the class seam more modern’ it will make a difference during heavy weather Gybes. Not dropping the rig is a big competitive advantage, not to mention the only time over weight me and old woodie have a chance against lightweights in their plastic fantastics.
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Originally posted by tink

Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by tink

I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit  moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route. 


I've seen the carbon boom..

The Carbon boom winds me up also ‘it won’t make any difference’ they say, ‘just make the class seam more modern’ it will make a difference during heavy weather Gybes. Not dropping the rig is a big competitive advantage, not to mention the only time over weight me and old woodie have a chance against lightweights in their plastic fantastics.

Not to mention they dont hurt as much when you get a face full of them......
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The forecast says not going 




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The forecast says not going 





That forecast says go sailing... unfortunately a combination of family and work parties will put paid to that.
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Main issue for me (although I no-longer have any stake in it) would be the maintenance aspect of carbon spars on a streaker.  An FRP streaker is a fantastic package for very low-maintenance sailing (also lovely boats to sail).  Introducing carbon spars just for the sake of it would ruin this, and introducing them to actively look for performance gains opens another can of worms.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Ardea

Main issue for me (although I no-longer have any stake in it) would be the maintenance aspect of carbon spars on a streaker.  An FRP streaker is a fantastic package for very low-maintenance sailing (also lovely boats to sail).  Introducing carbon spars just for the sake of it would ruin this, and introducing them to actively look for performance gains opens another can of worms.

Very well put Ardea.
The other issue is that with the tin masts there are different stiffness for different weights and how would that be achieved in carbon. Clearly I know practically it is easy but more complex to control and economically. 

Playing devils advocate thought Aluminium extrusion is a very expensive volume method of manufacturing (or at least the plants I have seen are) the point will come when the carbon is cheaper than alloy which is part of the boom argument. With regard maintenance - paint the carbon white - uv damage solved 
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I'm not a Streaker owner but having gone from ally to carbon on a Contender I really wish carbon booms were allowed on my two person boat. Simply nicer to use in all ways, some carbon masts have insane price tags and yes UV protection requirements but a boom is under the cover and need not be anything like to tech hungry as a mast.
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