Who's going and when?
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Topic: Who's going and when?
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Who's going and when?
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 12:55pm
Dinghy show..
I'll be there Sat morning until just after lunch I guess, depending on how interesting it is this year.
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Posted By: Simon Lovesey
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 2:02pm
Originally posted by iGRF
Dinghy show..
I'll be there Sat morning until just after lunch I guess, depending on how interesting it is this year. |
Graeme
You are welcome to join us (on the dark side) for the Selden SailJuice Winter Series Prize Giving and review, Sat 10.30 on the classes stage in the Great Hall.
This winter we have seen a healthy growth in numbers, with around 600 entries from 91 different classes, and three events selling out. 18 classes achieved 10 or more boats and more people qualified (55 boats) this winter. We also hosted class championships within these big handicap events, with Hadrons H2 Inlands and RS Aero Winters (48 boats), showing the flexibility of the format and people enjoying sailing against mates from other classes.
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Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 2:56pm
Yep, I'll be there helping to host the 600 stand on Saturday. We have a brand-new boat all-prepped for this year.
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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 4:14pm
As an aside, having only ever been two or three times in my life, is the Dinghy Show the sort of thing you'd go to each year, or occasionally?
I went last year, is there likely to be much difference year to year or is it a better experience to go every few years to really see big changes in the sport?
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Posted By: zeon
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 5:05pm
Saturday until lunch time, then will pop out for lunch 
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by Jamie600
As an aside, having only ever been two or three times in my life, is the Dinghy Show the sort of thing you'd go to each year, or occasionally?
I went last year, is there likely to be much difference year to year or is it a better experience to go every few years to really see big changes in the sport? |
I really enjoy it, a bit of a show victim me, there's always stuff to see, some to marvel at others to chuckle about, sometime old sailing friends and acquaintances to run into and I usually always miss something even though I think I've 'done' the whole room. My ex windsurfing buddy Dee Caldwell is allegedly going to be somewhere with his new boots I shall have to go and check out and maybe take the piss that's he's now selling to us dinghy sailors...
I shall have a look at that new trapeze harness which isn't quite as expensive as I thought, especially compared to some harness prices we see in kiting these days.
There's a new quick little Streaker that might upset the applecart down the lake next winter I shall have a look at. Then there will inevitably be new foilers , so bound to be something else, so yes, every year I make the trip..
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Posted By: fogliettaz
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 7:24pm
Come and see us Graeme, we have the new Streaker on our stand.
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 28 Feb 19 at 9:31pm
Going without a stand to man this year on Saturday. Looking forward to wandering around bumping into old friends.
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 10:23am
Originally posted by fogliettaz
Come and see us Graeme, we have the new Streaker on our stand. |
I can't wait, it's got a carbon rig of course... I mean it's a lightweights boat, why wouldn't a brand new super quick Streaker in 2019 not have a carbon rig?
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 12:46pm
I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route.
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Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 1:23pm
First visit for many years on Sunday
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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by tink
I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route. |
I've seen the carbon boom..
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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 2:30pm
Will be up Sunday with the family, taking a few snaps and getting some video too.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by iGRF
Originally posted by tink
I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route. |
I've seen the carbon boom..  |
The Carbon boom winds me up also ‘it won’t make any difference’ they say, ‘just make the class seam more modern’ it will make a difference during heavy weather Gybes. Not dropping the rig is a big competitive advantage, not to mention the only time over weight me and old woodie have a chance against lightweights in their plastic fantastics.
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 3:34pm
Originally posted by tink
Originally posted by iGRF
Originally posted by tink
I hope the Streaker doesn’t have a Carbon rig. The PY bandit moaners will have a field day with that. I remember one issue the bandit moaners have is that the old wooden ones artificial push up the PY making the plastic boats bandits. Adding a carbon rig will only worsen this separation. The appeal of the streaker is that it hasn’t gone down the carbon route. |
I've seen the carbon boom..  |
The Carbon boom winds me up also ‘it won’t make any difference’ they say, ‘just make the class seam more modern’ it will make a difference during heavy weather Gybes. Not dropping the rig is a big competitive advantage, not to mention the only time over weight me and old woodie have a chance against lightweights in their plastic fantastics. |
Not to mention they dont hurt as much when you get a face full of them......
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 3:40pm
The forecast says not going
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 3:56pm
Originally posted by tink
The forecast says not going
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That forecast says go sailing... unfortunately a combination of family and work parties will put paid to that.
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Posted By: Ardea
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 4:55pm
Main issue for me (although I no-longer have any stake in it) would be the maintenance aspect of carbon spars on a streaker. An FRP streaker is a fantastic package for very low-maintenance sailing (also lovely boats to sail). Introducing carbon spars just for the sake of it would ruin this, and introducing them to actively look for performance gains opens another can of worms.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Ardea
Main issue for me (although I no-longer have any stake in it) would be the maintenance aspect of carbon spars on a streaker. An FRP streaker is a fantastic package for very low-maintenance sailing (also lovely boats to sail). Introducing carbon spars just for the sake of it would ruin this, and introducing them to actively look for performance gains opens another can of worms.
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Very well put Ardea. The other issue is that with the tin masts there are different stiffness for different weights and how would that be achieved in carbon. Clearly I know practically it is easy but more complex to control and economically.
Playing devils advocate thought Aluminium extrusion is a very expensive volume method of manufacturing (or at least the plants I have seen are) the point will come when the carbon is cheaper than alloy which is part of the boom argument. With regard maintenance - paint the carbon white - uv damage solved
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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 5:28pm
I'm not a Streaker owner but having gone from ally to carbon on a Contender I really wish carbon booms were allowed on my two person boat. Simply nicer to use in all ways, some carbon masts have insane price tags and yes UV protection requirements but a boom is under the cover and need not be anything like to tech hungry as a mast.
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by Ardea
Main issue for me (although I no-longer have any stake in it) would be the maintenance aspect of carbon spars on a streaker. An FRP streaker is a fantastic package for very low-maintenance sailing (also lovely boats to sail). Introducing carbon spars just for the sake of it would ruin this, and introducing them to actively look for performance gains opens another can of worms.
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Maintenance can be taken care of by painting rather than using a clear coating. Paint lasts a lot longer. We had a guy with a carbon Phantom mast painted white. The guy never needed to do anything with it but the clear coated guys were having to refinish every 2-3 years.
That said I am not convinced Carbon is the was forward for every class. Although the big advantage with a carbon mast can be repaired. With ali once it has bent it is usually replacement time.
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Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 8:59pm
I've seen Sunday's weather forecast, so I'll go to the show instead. haven't been for a few years, and haven't had to pay for a ticket ever I think. What's parking like on Sundays normally-Saturday's usually hard.
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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 01 Mar 19 at 9:21pm
The show is always heralded as the start of the season which has always perplexed me, I have recently moved from a club up North where the season starts actually clashes every year with the show. I am now at an all year club so less of an issue. I would think a show the week before half term would have more appeal. People are less likely to be torn between sail or show they are still in pre season preparations so the commercial stands would benefit. Obviously and especially considering last year weather would be a factor.
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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 04 Mar 19 at 1:51pm
I went on Sunday and was on the H2 stand for four hours - first time to the show in decades but really enjoyed it. Was hoping to see more of the show but the constant stream of interested punters meant I never really got away from the stand.
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