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    Posted: 14 Aug 17 at 8:11pm
I think it's an age demographic thing, the classes that attract younger types probably hold up better than the one's that are generally supported by the 'been there, got the T shirt' generation.

Let's face it, it's a lot of hassle, getting the mast down, finding the road covers, checking the wheel bearings, just getting a number plate for your trailer board involves hoops to jump through these days if you've recently switched tow vehicles.

Then there's the journey, road trip it aint, these days of shuffling from one elongated car park to the next, risking E.European side swipes from TIRs, to unreasonable tolls on roads, then you get there, rig the damn thing with only the return to look forward to.

I've got the Solution nationals coming up, I'd love to be there, but can I be asked to go through all that? Nope

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Just spent 2 weeks in Aberdovey, no one there, hardly any traffic going or coming back, last year traffic on M54/A5 horrendous, perhaps it's not just sailing.
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I suspect Pwhelli is a factor, an architects fantasy, form over function, in the middle of an industrial estate ... why anyone would choose this as a North Wales venue over Abersoch with its lovely clubhouse overlooking the bay is hard to figure out.
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Merlin nationals also clashing with Salcombe YC Regatta right now - 11 Merlins sailing there and I'd assume some would do both events if they didn't clash.

Just back from North West Norfolk Week, had a fantastic time. Numbers for that were down, but it works very well as a holiday and not just a sailing event.

Next week is the N12 Nationals at Weymouth, expecting over 30 boats in line with recent numbers but slightly more than other classes have had this year - probably down to the venue though.
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I find Pwhelli a bit dreary even on a summers day, mind their is a Wetherspoons now, can get cheap beer and burgers.
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I do think the idea of the family holiday being the Nationals is something fewer people now consider. But surely the youngsters don't have this problem? Maybe we should look at the ages of those taking part in the adult classes, and see if the big fleets have a higher % of younger sailors?
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Has anyone else noticed how Morrissey lyrics so wonderfully capture the concept of a dinghy national championship as a family holiday for the non-sailing element....

This is the coastal town
That they forgot to close down
Armageddon, come Armageddon!
Come, Armageddon! Come!

Everyday is like Sunday
Everyday is silent and grey

Hide on the promenade
Etch a postcard :
"How I Dearly Wish I Was Not Here"
In the seaside town
That they forgot to bomb
Come, come, come, nuclear bomb

Everyday is like Sunday
Everyday is silent and grey





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Originally posted by iGRF

I think it's an age demographic thing, the classes that attract younger types probably hold up better than the one's that are generally supported by the 'been there, got the T shirt' generation.

Let's face it, it's a lot of hassle, getting the mast down, finding the road covers, checking the wheel bearings, just getting a number plate for your trailer board involves hoops to jump through these days if you've recently switched tow vehicles.

Then there's the journey, road trip it aint, these days of shuffling from one elongated car park to the next, risking E.European side swipes from TIRs, to unreasonable tolls on roads, then you get there, rig the damn thing with only the return to look forward to.

I've got the Solution nationals coming up, I'd love to be there, but can I be asked to go through all that? Nope

Having just done home to Weymouth to North Berwick to home, and with another trip to Scotland for a Nationals to come I'd say, 'No it's not a lot of hassle'.  Worth every moment.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Has anyone else noticed how Morrissey lyrics so wonderfully capture the concept of a dinghy national championship as a family holiday for the non-sailing element....

This is the coastal town
That they forgot to close down
Armageddon, come Armageddon!
Come, Armageddon! Come!

Everyday is like Sunday
Everyday is silent and grey

Hide on the promenade
Etch a postcard :
"How I Dearly Wish I Was Not Here"
In the seaside town
That they forgot to bomb
Come, come, come, nuclear bomb

Everyday is like Sunday
Everyday is silent and grey






I see your point, but more disturbing to me is the similarity of Morrissey's words to those of John Betjeman in sentiment and structure. 
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I'm trying to imagine Betjeman teamed up with Johnny Marr.......
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