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ClubRacer 
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 Topic: RS 400 Tack LinePosted: 10 May 17 at 5:19pm |
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i think thats debatable with the 400 as switching to 1 string means you can change to a 4mm d12 tack line rather than the old 6mm pre-stretch or what ever is being put on the new boats
the tack line is still set up the same for 1 and 2 string anyway |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 5:45pm |
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You are still launching the pole and pulling up the kite, considerably more effort than just raising the kit while the helm deploys and retracts the pole. I may experiment with two strings on the Spice as the kite is huge, and well worn so it's rather sticky in the chute. We've been experimenting with a smaller kite off a Topper Omega ('bout the same size as a 400) this season which is much easier but would like to big one for racing.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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Neptune
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 6:21pm |
I don't have any knots hidden inside the pole on my Musto tackling and the pole comes in fully and the kite tucks nicely into the shoot.
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Neptune
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 6:25pm |
Something wrong with your system if there is noticeable friction in your pole launching. Suspect it maybe more to do with your kite being old and perhaps waterlogged and same for the sock ( although no sock on a 400). A good re-proof of the fabric should help alot
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 6:46pm |
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Yes I've done that and not yet tried the big kite this season. I do like the simplicity (in the sense of launching and recovering rather than all the string) of the single line system but it must take additional effort to do both jobs with just one? However we don't have too much trouble launching the kite and pole but, probably due to the old kite being waterlogged, dousing it is often a trial. Can't justify a new one just yet though it is on the list.......
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JimC
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 7:13pm |
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On a trapeze boat I prefer one string systems, because if you've got to rush into the boat and do everything at once it had better be one string. But on a lower powered sit out boat like the 400 its often possible to get the pole out as you approach the mark, leaving you with probably two heaves less rope to get the kite up, which ought to make for a faster hoist. So on slower boats and especially inland there's a good case to consider a separate line for the pole.
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Oatsandbeans
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 7:49pm |
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Doesn't the spinaker fall in the water if you pull the pole out fully before the mark?
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JimC
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Posted: 10 May 17 at 8:44pm |
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Never happened to me on a 400 on a lake. 'tis only a baby kite and a baby pole.
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Ardea
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 9:12am |
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I've always used a one string system. A healthy stream of well intentioned abuse from the helm helped get the sticky kite up on our old cherub
 I agree that with JimC on two string on trapeze boats is probably not a great idea.
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RS400atC
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Posted: 11 May 17 at 2:23pm |
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I've heard various opinions of why the one string systems don't work very well on 400's, but I think most people who actually sail 400s concede the two strings are better in reality on a 400.
Yes, we know the one string system on 800s and other boats work fine. That's irrelevant. The 400 with one string pole can ocassionally throw the pole too far forwards, letting the wing wang lines fall off the inboard end. This can ruin your day. You can prevent this with another bit of string, but this can tangle apparently. It's possible people have sorted this on the very newest boats, if so I'd be pleased to hear about it. But I'd ignore random anecdotes about what works on other classes! |
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