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Cameron Winton 
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Joined: 08 Nov 11 Location: Prestwick Online Status: Offline Posts: 41 |
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 Topic: Expensive Sports...Posted: 17 Sep 16 at 1:57pm |
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Is golf not hideously expensive for a walk in the park?
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Do Different
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Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Posted: 17 Sep 16 at 4:20pm |
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Not really, municipal courses can be little different to hiring a Club boat for the day.
Fact is little or much you can make pretty well any sport as expensive or cheap as your ambition or desire dictates. |
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Ardea
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Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 9:05am |
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My understanding is that golf can be from about £15 upwards for a round depending on where you go. Then a set of clubs can be found from about £100 upwards. £200 probably gets you your first year of trying golfing and that probably wouldn't get you very far with sailing.
As an ongoing hobby it's very likely more expensive than sailing, but cheaper to dip in and out of. Plus a set of clubs can linger in the loft without any real cost or inconvenience.
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Cirrus
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Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 11:30am |
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Previous generations often got into the sport by sailing (and working on)cheaper older boats and crewing for others. .... They got DIY boat skills doing the former and could learn a lot off the typically older helms they crewed with. If they got the bug, as so many did, they soon made their own choices on where they spent their own modest resources - and partly sacrificed other 'expensive' things to get a more decent boat in time.
Nice if the bank of 'mum & dad' (typically) help more today .... but imo this route does not necessarily instal lasting and deep involvement for a majority. This can blow away as soon as the crutch of transport/support and 'provided' hardware disappears. It is not the price of new boats that is the problem... they were always 'expensive' surely relative to an (early) modest income at any price. There is still a very strong case in my mind for promoting crewed boats at clubs in part for the impact it appeared to have in the past. Singlehanders are great BUT 'team' based involvment can help build lasting greater committment early on ..... Discuss. |
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JimC
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Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 11:38am |
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The trouble with crewed boats is the need for two lifestyles to coincide. I'd much rather sail a two hander, but its not practical for me.
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davidyacht
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Posted: 19 Sep 16 at 12:18pm |
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Back in the day I sailed in a club where Cadets were the junior class, and we had fleets of OK's, National 12's and Merlins, there was no Handicap fleet. As the cadets got older, the Cadet Crews would become Cadet Helms, and the Cadet Helms would progress to helming or crewing in the "Senior" boats ... having transferable skills.
Worth bearing in mind that there was a good stock of competitive second hand boats in these classes at the time, that could be done up, and season old sails could be picked up off the open meeting sailors. At that time magazines like Y&Y and Yachting and Boating Weekly made heroes of some of the open meeting winners, and therefore it was exciting when a Silver Tiller Meeting came to the lake, especially if you got to crew for one of the old boys at the club. Also, the Adult Class boats were often lent to Juniors/Cadets to give them the experience, often for Open Meetings or Cup Races. Quite a few of my generation at that club are still racing dinghies today ... 40 years on.
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Happily living in the past
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DiscoBall
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Joined: 03 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 305 |
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Posted: 21 Sep 16 at 1:38pm |
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Jim - are you sure there's absolutely no-one in your life who might like to learn to sail and could manage the front of something like an Ent? Or do you really mean you can't find anyone to crew a high performance double-hander with a view to winning? Of course, so many helm's aversion to doing the former may be a reason for the distinct lack of the latter type of crew.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 21 Sep 16 at 1:53pm |
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for me it's simply a matter of time... a friend and I talked about buying a fireball for club racing on a Wednesday night. Nice in theory, but then a quick look at calendars and we could have both made a max of 5 of them all year due to work and pre-existing / priority family holidays.... sorry, but that's just not enough of a return on investment.... We came to the conclusion that in reality, we'd be better off sharing a Laser- a suggestion that neither of us have rushed to take to fruition.
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blueboy
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Posted: 21 Sep 16 at 3:37pm |
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Yes, I much prefer a two hander but the fact is I've done much more sailing with a single hander than in my last few seasons with a two hander. |
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gordon1277
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Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665 |
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Posted: 21 Sep 16 at 3:53pm |
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I bought a 400 to have a bit of fun with and try to get some of the trainees into crewing but its not been that easy. ended up with a good guy for the summer which got me back sailing the boat a lot better but he has gone back to sea in the merchant.
So anybody want to have a go at Lee on Solent for the Autumn? ideally not to heavy but strong enough to get the kite up and down. Happy to teach from base level but would prefer a little experience. Saturday afternoons at 2.30 changing to 2pm when the clocks change. Keeping the Phantom for proper sailing for a lard Ar#e and when crews cant be found. |
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Gordon
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