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    Posted: 11 Jul 14 at 6:17pm
Avoid that one as well, he shouts at you if so much as your sails shadow darkens his view..
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I totally agree with Rodney; I think time spent on the water tacking, gybing, mark rounding, holding position etc, can actually make much more difference than sailing against other boats.  You get a real 'feel' for the boat and then develop a better sense of what is fast and what is slow.  Invest in a go pro or similar to analyse technique.  get someone in a powerboat to take pics and give feedback on your sail shape.
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Get a copy of Eric Twiname's "Sail, Race and Win". It's all about how to analyse what to learn, how to plan to learn, and how to actually learn.

As mentioned earlier, racing can be a really bad way to improve your sailing, because there is so much going on that you cannot pick out one facet of this incredibly complicated sport and learn how to do it right. Training is also very rewarding; a lot of the time a good training session is more fun than a race, because you get to enjoy sailing and sailing well.

Also, the single biggest difference between winners and the rest of the pack, in my experience, is the intensity of their sailing. The winners are constantly searching for the groove; trimming harder, concentrating on the incoming waves and puffs more. 






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I second that; read books. Not for their own sake, but to get ideas for training techniques you can perform solo.

I can only think of a few exercises (below) but Twiname and other authors will have plenty more.

1. Hover beside a mark, maintaining station
2. Set your watch and practice starts on a very short line
3. Practice stopping and accelerating
4. Do 200 tacks, until they are perfect and you don't have to think
5. Ditto gybes
6. Sail rudderless to learn steering without the tiller
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Originally posted by MerlinMags

I second that; read books. Not for their own sake, but to get ideas for training techniques you can perform solo.

I can only think of a few exercises (below) but Twiname and other authors will have plenty more.

1. Hover beside a mark, maintaining station
2. Set your watch and practice starts on a very short line
3. Practice stopping and accelerating
4. Do 200 tacks, until they are perfect and you don't have to think
5. Ditto gybes
6. Sail rudderless to learn steering without the tiller


I need to do all that, I'm useless at maintaining station and it's fundamental to a good start on a windsurfing startline as is sailing backwards and forwards without slipping sideways, if there were a way to do that in a dinghy I'd buy it.

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Originally posted by Chris 249

Get a copy of Eric Twiname's "Sail, Race and Win". It's all about how to analyse what to learn, how to plan to learn, and how to actually learn.


Is the book really that worthwhile?  I don't mean to be a little negative but quite a few of the books i've looked through aren't overly brilliant.  Don't get me wrong I'm happy to try anything just wanted to get a bit more info.

As for all the hints and tips, thanks ladies and gents, i'm now trying to go down early for racing to spend and hour or so doing tacking and gybing practice and trying to sit on station (seen the lasers doing this although never tried it myself). 

While i'm writing anyway, has anyone any experience about racing finns?  Theres a well sailed one i end up racing against from time to time and it seems to perform well for its handicap?  I was under the impression the olympic classes tended to have a lower PY due to the above average quality of sailors in the class?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kneewrecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 14 at 1:31pm
Get Clive Eplett's Book ... it's much more real world sailing for most of us than the rest of the tosh out there focused on championship sailing.  

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Actually don't bother. Stay at the back and pootle about. People seem to be so much happier at the back of the fleet, have a chat and a yarn on their way round. Have you ever noticed that it is supposed rubbish people who seem to be smiling more while sailing.

If you get better it only leads to disappointment. And it's far too serious up front. Try and have a chat only to be told to "f*** off, I'm trying to race....." much nicer at the back.

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Oh and if you are anywhere near the line at the start you'll get some crazed loon trying to smash your pride and joy to pieces.
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