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    Posted: 16 Dec 13 at 4:03pm
Originally posted by goyachts

Is the perfect trainer one that is more stable and maybe self rights?
Or is making it to easy a mistake ?
In Australia , the standard is that beginners need a boat that capsizes
But I am wondering if the first boat that beginners started in could have removable
Ballast and could not capsize ( at least to start with). Could you get more
People to have a go?
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In Oz you have the benefit of warm water to fall into and non-frostbite-inducing-windchill when you're out of it.  Either we fly all beginners to the med between March and October or we carry on with Oppy's, Toppers, Wayfarers, Fevas etc... as we have now.

FWIW, I always recommend starting kids once it gets warm (doesn't need to be hot) as nothing like a cold, blowy day first time-out to put them off for life  Wink
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

Of course the counterpoint to that is when you are trying to teach a group of beginners who are all too comfortable with falling in...  Confused

let them... they've got years of misery ahead of them when messing around in the water and jumping off their boat will be frowned upon.  LOL

Too right, when my son started sailing with some friends at around 10 in an old London dock for them the best bit of the whole experience was capsizing - they loved it (heaven knows what they swallowed!), and would spend any time they were allowed - on warm days - capsizing deliberately. My son went on doing that for years when he was out sailing for fun and it was warm. I always thought it was to be encouraged, it gave them loads of confidence in the water and loads of practice righting the boat, and you can never really have too much of that, unless you are in a race!
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Originally posted by PeterG

Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

Of course the counterpoint to that is when you are trying to teach a group of beginners who are all too comfortable with falling in...  Confused

let them... they've got years of misery ahead of them when messing around in the water and jumping off their boat will be frowned upon.  LOL

Too right, when my son started sailing with some friends at around 10 in an old London dock for them the best bit of the whole experience was capsizing - they loved it (heaven knows what they swallowed!), and would spend any time they were allowed - on warm days - capsizing deliberately. My son went on doing that for years when he was out sailing for fun and it was warm. I always thought it was to be encouraged, it gave them loads of confidence in the water and loads of practice righting the boat, and you can never really have too much of that, unless you are in a race!

+1.  My kids are the same - the lads Topper spends more time upside down than the right way up on some days!
What could possibly go wrong?
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