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    Posted: 26 Jul 13 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by yellowwelly

I secretly can't wait for the time comes to buy a Feva for my girls.... chuck it on the back of the car for family holidays and it'll make a fun beach toy for me on my own for an hour or two.


But they have an asy and race a windward leeward course! Surely after your comments about the 90's yesterday you would not expose them to such torture!?? ;) personally I'm a big fan of assy w/l racing but I also recognise that it is not for every stretch of water and in my opinion it is actually more tactical, with better boat on boat racing in a slightly slower asy that sails a hotter angle than a flat out 49'er or similar.

I think the feva turnout is excellent! It looks great fun and far more cool and colourful than a mirror worlds. In my opinion it is one of RS's greatest success stories. I wonder if this is what they are trying to replicate with the cat, a cheap squad boat that becomes an RYA pathway class.

My only concern is that once these kids have raced all over the world, when they come to select an adult class and they go non Olympic because they are not the next 'Ben', will they have been there, done that, now bored? All my youth squad friends quit sailing, bored with the unstructured approach that normal adult sailing is. After aiming for the youth worlds, topper squad selection, etc, Abersoch Dighy Week just does not excite them!

I must confess that having the disposable income to do one international event in Europe a year in the boat I sail now really does excite me, far far more than club sailing ever could. I've tried the solo and while the big fleets were great it just was not my cup of tea - and in a fleet that big it quickly turns into bumper cars with little respect for the rules by some. now that I have been re-excited about international competitions it makes me wonder why the OK has never been more popular?
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feva for blatting around on a beach... yep why not?  Asymmetrics make nice beach boats, or for having a bit of light hearted racing between 10 mates.... you could join in a local town regatta somewhere sunny and windless and call it a Nationals for all I care..... you won't catch me calling it a 'noddy class' or being derogatory about any classes any more, if you're having fun that's all that matters.

As for racing- if my girls want to then fine, I will support it.  But I'm not bothered if they do or don't want to make sailing a competitive thing, or a 'freeride sport'- much like winter sports, or windsurfing or riding bikes/ponies. sailing on our boat in spain etc.   It'll be their call, not mine... on the whole damn thing; we live in the Midlands, I could hardly blame them for saying its all just totally sh*t if they'd rather be out on a pony.

The asymmetric on the Feva is more like cruising chute anyway.  That's not a criticism- quite the reverse, I agree with you totally about smaller kites being better for racing- well certainly the racing that happens around us.   Which is why I was interested to see your (or was it Russ's) posts of FB about the gent D-Oneing in Abersoch- great to see someone doing well on a RTC course with a boat like that.  I'd be interested to know if he found white sailing quicker, or whether he nursed the kite with dog-legs off the rhumline.... there's a genuine interest in that, I've always thought the D-One was a dark horse with one sail up.....


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And I thought it was about getting in a boat and going as fast as you can. You can't get drunk or stoned either, and bullying is out. May as well just go to Clacton and where what you want.
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''My only concern is that once these kids have raced all over the world, when they come to select an adult class and they go non Olympic because they are not the next 'Ben', will they have been there, done that, now bored? All my youth squad friends quit sailing, bored with the unstructured approach that normal adult sailing is. After aiming for the youth worlds, topper squad selection, etc, Abersoch Dighy Week just does not excite them!''


Having just moved from a topper, I must say i'm worried about that too: i moved to a streaker because it's a really nice boat, not quick, just nice, there are a few at my club and they have a pretty good open circuit. Most of my friends have moved into 29ers: but not all of them are going to go into the natural progression of a 49er. what are the people who don't follow up the 29er with the 49er going to do? I couldn't imagine campaigning a topper for 3 years, then a 29er for another 2 all around England and Europe,  then just going back to my home club and sailing something slower/less competitive. I fear that many juniors will, once they go to uni, just stop sailing.
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Jimbo I think the key point is that it is excellent that the feva is exiting so many kids and can be sailed on most sizes of water. I just hope that these kids stick around in the long run and don't get bored of sailing as it will be excellent for sailing on the whole!
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Well done to World Champs Hannah and Bobby from Leigh and Lowton :-)

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Having just moved from a topper, I must say i'm worried about that too: i moved to a streaker because it's a really nice boat, not quick, just nice, there are a few at my club and they have a pretty good open circuit. Most of my friends have moved into 29ers: but not all of them are going to go into the natural progression of a 49er. what are the people who don't follow up the 29er with the 49er going to do? I couldn't imagine campaigning a topper for 3 years, then a 29er for another 2 all around England and Europe,  then just going back to my home club and sailing something slower/less competitive. I fear that many juniors will, once they go to uni, just stop sailing.


And that is exactly what happened to my friends.

Well done to the guys from L&L, top effort!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2547 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 13 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by GarethT

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but that's all the places allocated.

of which 80 sailors are invited to try out for, with a stringent pre-entry criteria....


remind me to buy a tera instead if we go for singlehanders for my monkeys....

I think they've got a life of terms and conditions in front of them, assuming they were talented enough to sail at this level, I'd have hoped the following wouldn't really be necessary for a kids recreational sport:


This bit particularly stinks:

  1. Comply with any reasonable requests from IOCA (UK) and the RYA or their sponsors to undertake

    media or PR activity prior to, during and on return from event,

  2. 3.4.  Wear appropriate, supplied branded clothing at any and all times reasonably requested by the

    coaching staff and during any media or PR activity and also within any team activity prior, during and subsequent to the regatta in particular where sailors may be interviewed, photographed or filmed in connection with their place in the Optimist Team GBR. 


I don't think those are unreasonable demands ... it is more a matter of whether you wish to encourage your child into elite sport .... if you are not happy with the above then keep your kids out of it ... it is a matter of choice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2547 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 13 at 5:02pm
Originally posted by robin34024

'.,...what are the people who don't follow up the 29er with the 49er going to do? 

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Originally posted by charlie1019

Jimbo I think the key point is that it is excellent that the feva is exiting so many kids and can be sailed on most sizes of water. I just hope that these kids stick around in the long run and don't get bored of sailing as it will be excellent for sailing on the whole!

I don't think the Feva being 'more exciting' than say a cadet, mirror or oppy makes much difference at all. 

Kids classes with mummy and daddy driving the miles, paying the bills and buying the boat has always been popular / popular-ish.  Just look at the Oppy Nationals on the league table....    

If they leave at 18 or 21, so what... some will come back when they're older, enough to hopefully have a nice race in Lasers or Solos anyway.
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