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    Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by Cirrus

Blaze Fire = 8.8m sail areaBut please 'No' GRF - we are certainly not recommending it for you - it really would not be your cup of tea !


Not on a boat that weighs 72 kgs I agree even sailing off 1070 (What my spreadsheet suggests it should be), Now if the hull weighed 50 kgs had a trapeze and sailed off 1033 as a result, well that would be interesting.
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Blaze Fire = 8.8m sail area

But please 'No' GRF - we are certainly not recommending it for you - it really would not be your cup of tea !
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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 11:29am
Yep agreed James. Always went just to see the latest canoe, moth and other development boats. Let's face it seeing a laser or aero every year is not very interesting.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 11:04am
it's seeing boats like Canoes which arguably make the Dinghy Show worth attending.....   I'm not sure it really does much to actually encourage someone with vanilla tastes to go and buy one, but a show without a well-strung Merlin, International Canoe, the latest Cherub etc would make an otherwise dull day, even duller.
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Originally posted by JimC

The Canoes will be back this time, and the latest boats are quite spectacular beasts. Well worth seeing, he said, with a touch of bias...



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Looks like Vlad Murnikov has been designing canoes!

MX-Next anyone? Funny how a canoe is cool and a Russian designer is not. 

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Best not to confuse indifference with sympathy.. ;-)
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I had a great chat to the IC folks last year, and look forward to popping by again.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 10:20am
Originally posted by JimC

The Canoes will be back this time, and the latest boats are quite spectacular beasts. Well worth seeing, he said, with a touch of bias...



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Well that certainly looks worth going to have a look at and being ignored by somebody with a self satisfied smirk with a thought bubble above his head which says 'You wouldn't get it even if I tried to explain to you sonny so move on'.

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Originally posted by ColH



Originally posted by iGRF

 What I really need is a light build Contender 'Fire' ;-)

There's very few dinghies as elegant-looking as a Contender  Clap  And those are generally old designs - 470, FF, FD, IC, Oppie [joke!]. Or is that just me showing my age?! 
Whether it would go as well, or look 'right', with a smaller rig is harder to judge.... but nice idea...
(That said - am looking forward to delivery of my Fire sail....!)



Well as a rule of thumb, I'm finding the optimum sail size one can handle across a broad range of conditions is ones weight in kilos over 10 in sq mtrs, given the volume of the boat is at least double that weight in litres, which most dinghys are. Ad a trapeze to that and the size increases by at least twenty five percent. So 70 kg over 10 = 7sq mtrs, plus 1.25 x 7 = 8.75 which is a guideline to the sort of sail size my weight should be capable of supporting at the top end with a trapeze providing the boat didn't weigh any more than me all up.

I'm not sure what size that Fire rig is, but the Blaze is a similar Lump to the Contender and a well sailed Blaze can match a Contender in marginal conditions, not so when they're fully wired, but we're talking averages here, so I think in a perfect world a redesigned smaller rig could work for lightweights on a Contender just as it does on the Blaze certainly when the breeze is up.

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