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    Posted: 23 Feb 17 at 10:52am
The Dinghy Show is a pre-season social event.

A chance to catch up with friends who now frequent other classes and generally gossip ...


If it stops it will be a great shame.


I wonder what the objectives of the show are from the RYAs perspective ...??
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it would be a shame if this was the last show, as it would spoil my plan of going once every three years. The ageing brain has forgotten previous visits and you dont notice its the same thing dragged out each time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Oinks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 11:16pm
Might be a Solution...but its not the answer  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 11:00pm
Originally posted by Neal_g

Is that the domain with toppers handing it to you


I have another Solution to that, involving death threats..

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Originally posted by pompeysailor

So what classes are not going to be at the show this year?
* H2 - but Keith and co. will be there.
* Blaze - Hartley will have a Blaze on show - just the association not there
* Phantom - Ovington will have a Phantom on show - just the association not there
* British Moth

any other classes/associations not going this year? (opportunity to point people towards your website instead?)

I'm pretty sure that the Europe Class won't be there either due to costs, but it's still a fabulous boat with a lovely Class set up and open racing.  http://www.ukeuropeclass.com
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 8:19pm
That's very much the case on the sea and big open water, but ducking and diving, fetching and running in the confines of a puddle up on your ear upwind and spinning round tight gybes yards from the reeds, control downwind can be as important as up, which is my current domain.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Oinks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 7:54pm
"... if you can possibly hang on to the extra rag upwind then you'll benefit like crazy on the next downwind."

A top notch sailor (Endeavour winner) reckoned, in our class, he could just about hang on to most people at the front of the fleet with a very powered up rig, and then blow them away downwind. It worked quite spectacularly.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by RS400atC


Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by ColH

Are there still classes where 'equalisation' actually works?

Were there ever? While the owners of some classes thought it worked (which admittedly is 85% of the game) precious few of the equalised classes were actually much good,and you have to wonder if carting extra lead about was part of the reason why.
It doesn't seem to do too much harm in the RS800. It means two fair size blokes don't have so far to stumble across the boat.


Yes, but then 800 has only just wised up to the forward hand taking the sheet off the boom.... weight equliaisation served its purpose, it helped in the overall presentation of inaccessible looking boats seem all the more accessible to joe average... one of RS's best 'crowd sourced' marketing lines was "you can even sail it with girls!" Cringeworthy now, but at the time absolutely genius!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 17 at 6:23pm
I've come to the conclusion that in dinghies which differ from boards in the excesses of volume or what you sort of call displacement, over crew and hull weight, you have, as against what were used to where there's pretty close to deficit so we drop off the plane all to quick, and boats enjoy a much more efficient 'gliding through' phase from displacement to actually planing which we on boards tend to be either on or off, so what does this all mean, well it seems to point to the relationship between the driving force i.e the sail and the windspeed, being more closely allied to helm weight than it has ever appeared to me before.
The relationship between sailors of given weights on boards is much much more apparent in speed differences in marginal conditions than it appears to be in boats, which is what has lead me to this conclusion when I'm jiggling around looking for that Holy grail of the Yardstick spreadsheet formula which of course can never perfectly exist, but it can serve to illustrate with uncanny accuracy the differences all the factors make, including the trapeze it seems, and especially when your digging about looking for what might suit your particular requirements.

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