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    Posted: 20 Jul 05 at 5:19pm

Has anybody got any experience sailing a Nacra A2; specifically are those bows as twitchy as they look?  I know Pete Melvin won the worlds in one recently in predominately light airs (I think) but he's a rock star and I'm not, so I'm really interested in how mere mortals find the boat...

Latest price from Dinghy Store (Datchet) is a whopping £13,800 ex delivery.

Sexy

I'd also be very interested in how single-handed F16s do against A-Classes, do the A-Classes usually win or visa versa; or does it simply depend on the sailor...?

 



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well i havent seen a A2 but the bows are no where near as sexy as the Aussie Flyer !

those boats are super quick so i would say get one of them! there is better second hand deals!
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Is the A2 now that cheap;last time I was looking it was about that excluding the mainsail !

I've got an Inter 17 for sale

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You call that cheap!  Yes, after numerous phone calls to the Dinghy Store that's the one they iterated to in the end (£13800), but I would be interested to see what somebody else got quoted...  that was ready to race, including VAT, excluding delivery.  By comparison, a new R2R AHPC Flyer via Pieter Saarberg is around £10.5k and is just a ferry ride away to Zandvoort...  A new R2R XJ is £9200 but is a fair treck away to Rimini.  A good option is a second had boat via Pieter S; he usually has good boats for sale...   edit: apart from now; the WC has cleaned hi out.

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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

I've got an Inter 17 for sale

The Mumbles cat fleet is growing fairly quickly at the moment; you could post a free add on our web site; you never know...  more and more interest is being shown in single handers becaus many of us work weird hours.

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Originally posted by sailwave

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

I've got an Inter 17 for sale

The Mumbles cat fleet is growing fairly quickly at the moment; you could post a free add on our web site; you never know...  more and more interest is being shown in single handers becaus many of us work weird hours.

http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk

 

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Hi Sailwave,

I can help with feedback on One up F16 Vs A class.
I have raced against them a number of times on my optimised one up F16. See Roll Call thread I have just posted Pic.of Altered.

 On windward and return course in under 12 kts. it is faster until it is a drifter (to light to set spinnaker). Over 12 kts. it is neck and neck until 15kts then the A keeps control easier and so far mistakes have stopped me from being competitive over 18 kts. But I am working on it and hope to remain competitive up to wind limit in future, have had less than one season experience on Altered so far most A's I have sailed against have alot more experience than this on their boats.

On triangle course, that doesn't allow kite on reaches, the A is quicker pretty much all the time so far as length allows it to press harder on reaches.

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Hi Gary,

Thanks; sounds close.  An F16 is a sensible choice for me; I live near a manufacturer, a friend sails one and I have the two-up option, but... and I can't explain it very well... there is something extremely appealing (to me) about trying to get the best out of a single sail on what I see as a beautiful boat.  I've just sold my F18 and loved blasting downwind with the kite up; A-Class is just something I have to do... 

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Hi Colin,

understand entirely, I have always felt the need to sail an A class but never had the money and I am a bit heavy.

A lot of people ask me why I went F16 and it is like you said. It was something I had to do, if I didn't take on the challenge now, I figured I probably wouldn't be physicaly capable of handling it one up in a few years time. Can always retire to A class .

To me an A class is like a racing bicycle, minimum drag no extras, just efficency, a beautiful thing. But I am more of a Horse Power man, that spinnaker is addictive downwind. Just a sailing Petrol Head .

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Hi Gary,

> To me an A class is like a racing
> bicycle, minimum drag no extras,
> just efficency, a beautiful thing

Exactly.  I've pretty much decided on an Auz Flyer now; the A2 is perhaps just tad too radical for me; and the price is silly. 

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