Nacra A2
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Category: Multihulls
Forum Name: Dinghy multihulls
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Topic: Nacra A2
Posted By: sailwave
Subject: Nacra A2
Date Posted: 20 Jul 05 at 5:19pm
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Has anybody got any experience sailing a Nacra A2; specifically are those bows as twitchy as they look? I know Pete Melvin won the worlds in one recently in predominately light airs (I think) but he's a rock star and I'm not, so I'm really interested in how mere mortals find the boat... Latest price from Dinghy Store (Datchet) is a whopping £13,800 ex delivery.
I'd also be very interested in how single-handed F16s do against A-Classes, do the A-Classes usually win or visa versa; or does it simply depend on the sailor...?
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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 20 Jul 05 at 10:17pm
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well i havent seen a A2 but the bows are no where near as sexy as the Aussie Flyer ! those boats are super quick so i would say get one of them! there is better second hand deals! ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 21 Jul 05 at 10:26am
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Is the A2 now that cheap;last time I was looking it was about that excluding the mainsail ! I've got an Inter 17 for sale
------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 21 Jul 05 at 10:40am
| You call that cheap! Yes, after numerous phone calls to the Dinghy Store that's the one they iterated to in the end (£13800), but I would be interested to see what somebody else got quoted... that was ready to race, including VAT, excluding delivery. By comparison, a new R2R AHPC Flyer via Pieter Saarberg is around £10.5k and is just a ferry ride away to Zandvoort... A new R2R XJ is £9200 but is a fair treck away to Rimini. A good option is a second had boat via Pieter S; he usually has good boats for sale... edit: apart from now; the WC has cleaned hi out. |
Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 21 Jul 05 at 10:52am
The Mumbles cat fleet is growing fairly quickly at the moment; you could post a free add on our web site; you never know... more and more interest is being shown in single handers becaus many of us work weird hours. http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk - http://www.mumblesyachtclub.co.uk |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 21 Jul 05 at 11:19am
Thanks; Done ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Twice Bitten
Date Posted: 21 Jul 05 at 12:30pm
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Hi Sailwave, I can help with feedback on One up F16 Vs A class. I have raced against them a number of times on my optimised one up F16. See Roll Call thread I have just posted Pic.of Altered. On windward and return course in under 12 kts. it is faster until it is a drifter (to light to set spinnaker). Over 12 kts. it is neck and neck until 15kts then the A keeps control easier and so far mistakes have stopped me from being competitive over 18 kts. But I am working on it and hope to remain competitive up to wind limit in future, have had less than one season experience on Altered so far most A's I have sailed against have alot more experience than this on their boats. On triangle course, that doesn't allow kite on reaches, the A is quicker pretty much all the time so far as length allows it to press harder on reaches. Regards Gary. ------------- Altered |
Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 21 Jul 05 at 12:51pm
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Hi Gary, Thanks; sounds close. An F16 is a sensible choice for me; I live near a manufacturer, a friend sails one and I have the two-up option, but... and I can't explain it very well... there is something extremely appealing (to me) about trying to get the best out of a single sail on what I see as a beautiful boat. I've just sold my F18 and loved blasting downwind with the kite up; A-Class is just something I have to do... Colin
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Posted By: Twice Bitten
Date Posted: 22 Jul 05 at 9:33am
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Hi Colin, understand entirely, I have always felt the need to sail an A class but never had the money and I am a bit heavy. A lot of people ask me why I went F16 and it is like you said. It was something I had to do, if I didn't take on the challenge now, I figured I probably wouldn't be physicaly capable of handling it one up in a few years time. Can always retire to A class  .To me an A class is like a racing bicycle, minimum drag no extras, just efficency, a beautiful thing. But I am more of a Horse Power man, that spinnaker is addictive downwind. Just a sailing Petrol Head  .Regards Gary. ------------- Altered |
Posted By: sailwave
Date Posted: 22 Jul 05 at 9:55am
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Hi Gary, > To me an A class is like a racing Exactly. I've pretty much decided on an Auz Flyer now; the A2 is perhaps just tad too radical for me; and the price is silly. Colin |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 11:56am
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does anyone know the reasoning behind the current trend of dreadnaught bows? is it a way of getting round rules? I'd have thought that it would reduce the volume forward and make pitchpoling easier. ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 1:39pm
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As far as know it is all down to reducing "wave making" charactistics of the hulls and thus reducing drag and thus increasing speed.
I've never sailed an A; but if you look at pictures of current boats the rig is fairly far back on the boat so I would guess the pitch-poling tendancies are not too great. ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 1:48pm
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Never heard of "dreadnaught bows" what is this ment to mean ????? The current trend in cat bows are to reduce the hight of the bows (less windage) with plenty of volume down low whislt not much up high. King of like the shape of a pair if you look at a cross section. This allows water to flow off the top of the hulls easier if the bows are submerged. "Wave peircing" bows ------------- 
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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 3:38pm
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The Dreadnought was the submarine in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea....
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 5:54pm
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the phrase comes from WW2 (I think) where the dreadnaught class ships in the german navy had bows where the the foremost point of the vessel was at the base of the bow instead of having the deck level sticking out over the front of the waterline. ------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |