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    Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 1:34pm
Are you allowed to raise your rudder when racing?
For example to cheat the tide or go across a bar at low water? we have lots of lasers that keep whipping us because they can lift everything and cut through sand banks... Dead
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 1:38pm
It depends on the class rules. In a Laser, not you can't.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender443 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

It depends on the class rules. In a Laser, not you can't.
 
Do class rules apply when you are handicap racing? And would the majority of people know that it is against Laser Class rules to lift your rudder why sailing? 
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They apply if you say you're sailing a Laser. If you said it was a Laser like boat with a variable rudder angle, then you'd be ok.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote olly_love Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 1:56pm
im guessing your racing at felixstowe,
i used to raise my foils and sail over the bar, its just a good tactic, and nothing in the club rules says you cant, normally they make you go around the green and red markers to stop you going through the cut
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I think its relatively standard practice on a Hobie cat to help reduce drag in light winds.  They normally only lift one though.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 2:17pm
Originally posted by Contender443

Do class rules apply when you are handicap racing?  


Absolutely and in their entirety. RRS 78.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 2:40pm
(j) The rudder shall be maintained in the full down
position except whilst racing in water less than
1.5m deep unless otherwise specified in the sailing

instructions.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 4:02pm

Crikey- a Laser rule with a common-sense allowance? Blimey!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote fudheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 11 at 4:07pm
[QUOTE=Lukepiewalker](j) The rudder shall be maintained in the full down
position except whilst racing in water less than
1.5m deep unless otherwise specified in the sailing

instructions.


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Where's it say that in the RRS?
Apparently a local RYA P.O.R. said that there has been protests upheld and it is not allowed to adjust rudder when racing. Unless it is designed to do so like a foil.......
Just can't find the rule
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