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    Posted: 28 Mar 10 at 10:09pm
This has been posted before (2007) so I wanted to ask again now that both classes have developed more.

Been looking in a few places and these days it seems that only really bladeriders are for sale in the moth world whoch are very expensive, while the FFs seem pretty cheap (£2400 ive found).

Ive sailed a moth a couple of times now, but not the 600. The moth is VERY cool, smaller and probably 'easier' (pfft) but i like that the 600 has retractable foils and stays upright (im used to skiffs). Really any help on the decision is welcome.

Just some quick facts : im getting up to 70 kgs and building, and am growing steadily to 6 ft and have been sailing a musto a bit and a 29er but moving on.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote aardvark_issues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 8:43am
Well, depends if you want to race it or not. The 600 scene has stopped growing as far as I can tell, while the Moth had over 100 new boats worldwide last year and 40 at the Nationals. While the Moth has developed more, the 600 hasn't really and the Moth is now faster round the cans.

There are a few solid Prowlers for sale at the moment in the 5-6K region which would buy you a solid easy to sail boat that can be tuned up to sail with the best of them.

As for weight, up to 80kg is fine and the former world champ is 85k. You dont foil as early, but once you do you go faster...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tickler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 9:22am
Oh, only 5-6k then. I'll buy 2.
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One pays for cutting edge technology, I'm afraid. Tiz why I sail old wrecks...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jamie600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 10:59am

Bearing in mind a new Laser is knocking on the door of £5k once you've bought covers, trailer, go faster bits etc, I don't think that's bad value. You get a handbuilt, carbon fibre state of the art flying machine that is considerably faster than pretty much anything else on the water.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jamesd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 12:55pm
"state of the art flying machine".......hardly a eurofighter typhoon is it
hahahha.
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No but to be fair we are talking about boats 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 2:16pm

Originally posted by Jamesd

"state of the art flying machine".......hardly a eurofighter typhoon is it
hahahha.

 

Moths are not massively over budget and obsolete before they're even used...



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Post Options Post Options   Quote zailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 5:27pm

The 600FF had a hull, A foiling boat requires no hull, just a floaty bit in the middle to strap all the bits onto.

 

Thats just my look on it.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Adamk93 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 5:45pm
I know theres many design claims and flaws and that they are rediculous boats, yet a laser is "obselete" and still in the olympics.... anyway i was looking more for comments such as aardvard_issues', however entertaining the general banter is.

And I dont think the eurofighter is obselete, i think it's pretty awesome personaly
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