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DanW ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 29 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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Hi folks
I forumed about 8 months ago about what would be the best cat for me. I'm now definitly ready to buy. Budget is up to 5k for something special but would rather spend less.Im looking at 2nd hand cats on the market and am tempted by the Hurricane. They seem reasonably priced with good performance. What are the pitfalls with this boat, if at all, and what is the opinion of our friends here on hobie 18 pacifics and hobie 20 s. Bearing in mind me and crew are not bothered by racing at class level, but just want to blast around as fast as possible, without too much fuss and the occasional long distance race weekend. Thanks |
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Worthy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 511 |
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How heavy are you and your crew? And what is your experience in sailing and in cats?
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DanW ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 29 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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crew weight is 26 stone, and experience is limited to dart 16, with experience on yachts too. However, were both fit, stupidly fearless and learn quickly. Cheesy i know but i think we could cope with a challenge, its the fine trimming and technical side of things that we would fall down on. It is more for fun than anything else
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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Anything F18 then if your really up for it. You may want to get a Dart 18 to test yourself before splashing out on loads of money. Sell it on after when you want more challenges. |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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I'd say a Hurricane will fit the bill; Take it easy to start with and build up to the big winds. A hurricane 5.9 is a fine boat (I've owned 2) and for 5K you could get a stunning example that will last you for a long time. They are very very well built, will carry weight well and go like stink.
have a read of http://www.hurricane59.com/
boats for sale: http://hurricane59.myfreeforum.org/forum6.php
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ASok ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
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You could pick up a cheap Dart 18 around the £1000 - £1500 try it for a bit and sell it on if you don't like it. I'm sure you wouldn't lose much money on it, if any. Great fleet and class commitee. Try their class website for buying guide etc -
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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I think 26 stone would be a lot too much for a Dart 18! |
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DanW ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 29 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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What are the fundamental differences between a hurricane and say a nacra, in regards to performance, simplicity, ease of handling, durability etc. Also has anyone an opinion or any experience with the hobie pacific. looks pretty awesome with the wings.
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Wee Man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 214 |
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I've never tried the Pacific but had a Hobie 18. Heavy old boat but will take all the abuse you can throw at it. The wings are just extra weight, don't bother. I'd recommend a Hurricane, had one until last year. Very quick and a good fleet, parts are easy to come by, try to get one with the SX kit (Spinaker & jib self tacker) |
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Worthy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 511 |
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Big question! I just want to sit back first and go through some of the options, and then your question will probably answer itself. The Hurricane 5.9 was designed much the same as the tornado (1970s I think). It is 20 ft long and has a lot of power (all 20 ft cats do!), but the power is controlable. The 5.9 is designed as a racing cat and has recently had the SX rig added as an option which gives a different jib and a spinnaker. It will easily carry the weight, and you will be able to pick one up quite cheaply. Warning, if you buy a 2 sail boat and you want to upgrade it to an SX rig in the future the upgrade will cost you iro £1500. F18s are numerous, powerful and fun. You can pick an older one up for your budget. However, at 165kg in new money, you are very heavy for the boat and so if you want to race it at some point you won't be as competitive as lighter crews. F18s can dent easily too. Nacras, there is a wide range. You would probably go for a Nacra F20, a 20ft F18 which will carry your weight very well. The Nacra F20 is a much more modern design than the Hurricane and has 3 sails. There isn't all that much fleet racing though in the UK. Again you should be able to pick one up within your budget. I have a lot of Nacra contacts so pm me if you are thinking along these lines. You have also mentioned the Hobie Pacific. The Pacific is a learning/cruising cat rather than a race cat. It is essentially an F18 without the daggerboards and a more forgiving rig. But saying that it is still fast enough to give you a big thrill when cruising but if you ever want to take it to an event you won't find any others to race against. It is going to be slightly more robust than the others in terms of dents etc. OK, so to try and answer your question. Both the Nacra and the Hurricane handle very well. Both are prob the same for durability. Not many Hurricanes are made any more but there are more on the water in the UK. If you are thinking of the pacific, you need to realise that it is a much 'cut down' version of the Nacra or the Hurricane. But, it still has its place in the market and it might be for you. |
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