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    Posted: 16 Jul 07 at 6:17pm
maybe abit of a stupid question but ive sailed high performance boats for he last year and i currently sail (helm) a laser 5000, before this ive raced toppers and lasers.

this summer im thinking of doing some racing in my 5000 and maybe a mates 4000 but since ive never raced high perormance boats before i just wondered if u guys can give me any tips or tricks for high performance racing like starting etc

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Just remember they don't bounce as well as a Topper when you crash at the leeward mark...
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Generally just duck people rather than trying to go above them.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 07 at 9:07pm
Sailorboi. If you pm me i will try and help you as much as i can! With regards to starting. If your in a mixed handicap fleet. Try and get a good start in clear wind if you're the fastest boat and also just duck slow boats such as lasers as you really just have to try and perform as well as you can. Oh and in lighter days always try and gybe and tack towards pressure.
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I think racing a high performance boat is a step up in ability compared to sailing one.  A much bigger step up than when in slower boats.  Sailing a 4000 as I do I often encounter people who have sailed them when on holiday and think they will do well at racing.  Invariably they do badly and capsise a lot, many are put off which is a shame.

I suppose the big difference is that they have been able to tack and gybe when they've wanted to, not when other boats or the course has forced them to.  Similarly they have not had to think ahead about: which gybe to get onto after a windward mark, which gybe to come into the leeward mark, and when to tack to clear other boats and arrive set up correctly for the windward mark.  You'll have noticed I've mentioned transistions that you have to make under pressure something you rarely have to do when just blasting, and as you know its the transistions which are the tricky bits with high performance boats.

So enjoy the new challenge and don't get put off by poor results, and let us know how it goes.

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I agree racing is a completely different game from just sailing.

 

And racing high performance boats is slightly different from racing lasers… or at least it is at club level. Rather than stress over boat on boat tactics or wind shifts concentrate more on clear air, pressure and ultimately boat speed. Not to say that all the normal things aren’t important just that a fast boat in clear air will always beat a slow boat, the gains are so much greater.

 

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Is a laser 4k a high performance boat?  I consider high performance to be 49er, 14, cherub etc etc.
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The 4K sails off of apparaent wind, seems a pretty good definition of a high performance boat in this day and age

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Originally posted by Dead Air

The 4K sails off of apparaent wind, seems a pretty good definition of a high performance boat in this day and age

name a boat that sails off wind that isn't apparent

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 07 at 2:05pm
.... this one???

 Till noon we quietly sailed on,
 Yet never a breeze did breathe:
 Slowly and smoothly went the ship,
 Moved onward from beneath.

 Under the keel nine fathom deep,
 From the land of mist and snow,
 The spirit slid: and it was he
 That made the ship to go.

.   yeah, what is high performance?



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