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    Posted: 15 Sep 06 at 9:06pm
Hi, I would be very grateful if anyone could advise about choice of catamaran. I have been sailing a Dart 16 with my wife and we are hooked on Catamarans but feel we would quickly outgrow this little cat (plus our combined weight is over  170Kg!). I am looking at the Dart Hawk or perhaps Spitfire Catamarans and would be very grateful for any feedback suggestions regarding choice etc. Which of these might be better?. Can you get spares easily etc. Also have looked at the Hurricane, is this as good as the others. Please help!!. Thanks
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Given your all up crew weight, I think the Hurricane would be the best bet.

 
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Thanks for your reply.Can't find much information on the Dart Hawk. Do they still make them and what is the suggested crew weight. I thought the Hawk might be a better cat being that it is a lot more modern than the Hurricane?.
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Originally posted by lostatsea

Thanks for your reply.Can't find much information on the Dart Hawk. Do they still make them and what is the suggested crew weight. I thought the Hawk might be a better cat being that it is a lot more modern than the Hurricane?.

 

Hawk is no longer made, it was the first one of the F18's. 

I'd go for a Hurricane with the SX kit; or maybe one of the other 20 footers like the Nacra Inter 20. 

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I think the Nacra inter 20 is too expensive and too complicated to rig up. I have seen a really good Hawk for reasonable cost but if you can't get parts then I guess its not such a good deal. Do you know if there is anywhere thatstill sells the bits. Thanks
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All the spinny cats are pretty much the same to rig, infact the hawk is probably a bit more fiddly than the inter20. Go for the 20 super boat - easier to sail than an 18 - nice light mast too - spares easy to get.
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Thanks but the inter20 is out of my price league. My max spend is less than 4K. There are plenty of Dart 18's around for less than this but I thought the Hawk or spitfire might be better. Maybe I will have another look at the Hurricanes.
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All the Spi cats are rigged the same way.

For 4K you can get a very good 5.9; Just make sure it has the newer bendy mast.

I would suggest you talk to Andy Webb.

Hurricane 5.9 website for sale list

http://www.hurricane59.com/forsale.php?id=forsale

 

 

 
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Originally posted by lostatsea

I think the Nacra inter 20 is too expensive and too complicated to rig up. I have seen a really good Hawk for reasonable cost but if you can't get parts then I guess its not such a good deal. Do you know if there is anywhere thatstill sells the bits. Thanks

The Hawk was very well built and you will still get parts from White Formula.
The main problem is that they did not have a chute, and unless the one you are looking at has had one fitted, it can become quite costly to bring it up to date. As well as the chute, you will need patches on the spinnaker - and the early spinnakers were not great anyway - so you could need a new one - It can all add up. 

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Originally posted by Dermot M

Originally posted by lostatsea

I think the Nacra inter 20 is too expensive and too complicated to rig up. I have seen a really good Hawk for reasonable cost but if you can't get parts then I guess its not such a good deal. Do you know if there is anywhere thatstill sells the bits. Thanks

The Hawk was very well built and you will still get parts from White Formula.
The main problem is that they did not have a chute, and unless the one you are looking at has had one fitted, it can become quite costly to bring it up to date. As well as the chute, you will need patches on the spinnaker - and the early spinnakers were not great anyway - so you could need a new one - It can all add up. 

Exactly, and you will be buying a boat with obsolete sails, I'd say buy a Hurricane SX, it will hold it's value too.
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