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    Posted: 20 Feb 17 at 12:52pm
I was speaking to my local trailer builder and they commented about an old Fireball combi they made which was a covered 'box' design where a boat could be wheeled straght into and driven off / when storing can be wheeled inside with mast up / and overnight stays can be used as accomodation.

does anyone use something like this still / has anyone got an photos of a trailer similar to this?

Considering something like this for ease and accomodation when travelling to opens/nationals/etc
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I saw something once, it was a sort of mini-folding caravan/trailer tent affair, with brackets to hold the launching trolley on the folded lid.
It seemed to pack down to a box about 18in tall,  and open to a funny wedge shape.
It might have been Fireball related.
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A little like a race car transporter or a glider trailer; makes a lot of sense for frequent travellers probably not so much of a cost benefit for occasional use, having said that could be a good winter storage solution.
I have seen a double stacker like that from Germany, they used it for accommodation and storage for the week of a regatta. 
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Trailer tent with boat attached to the top. Admittedly we did take out the tent bit...
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http://prgtrailers.co.uk/cms/resources/prg-trailers-pricelist-2017-april.pdf

Much lighter versions of this sort of thing. To carry a dinghy on a trolley a Max 750 kg gross unbraked should be achievable also solves the thorny question of lighting boards on twiggy sticks at the same time.
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A friend of mine had an enclosed box trailer built for his wooden Miracle. It saved time putting covers on though it did still need strapping down within the trailer. The main rationale was that it was cheaper than having a garage built!
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There is a German boat box trailer that turns into a caravan. Converting an old caravan has crossed my mind, or one of those box trailers you often see hired. Big to have around compared to a combi, though.
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Originally posted by pompeysailor


Considering something like this for ease and accomodation when travelling to opens/nationals/etc

Don't you need a car that you can fit a towbar to first?? :-)

Seriously though, a couple of factors had lead me to similar thoughts:

1 - The current trailer lighting rules which mean the lights bounce along on unfeasibly long and thin bars that are a right PITA to deal with.

2 - When you arrive at an open, you're frequently told you can drop the boat off, but have to park the car (containing all the bits you need to get the boat to work) a long way off.

So perhaps a solution to both would be a large box trailer with fixed sides & front about the same height as the boat, so if required a sold top could cover it.  All boat clutter could travel inside, and there would be a hinging tailgate onto which lights would be mounted, as well as supporting the mast.

Instead of a solid roof you could have a number of canvas options: Mast up boat storage, travelling boat cover, camping cover etc.

I'm sure it could be made such that the overall footprint isn't significantly larger than the existing roadbase -ie it can be stored in a standard dinghy park slot. 
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Could certainly be done but I don't know anything about the current trailer "construction and use" regs. It would have to be a custom build, professional would be expensive and I'm not sure if DIY is an option anymore. I'd certainly consider a multipurpose trailer if I was doing events regularly. 
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Any new trailer has to be either Type Approved or undergo an 'Individual Vehicle Inspection'.  Anyone suffering from insomnia can find the details of this here - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/367387/IVA-inspection-manual-for-categories-o1-o2-o3-and-o4-trailers.pdf   A quick scan though suggest they're mostly concerned about the position of lights etc....

Existing trailers have 'Grandfather rights', so assuming your existing A-frame road base has a suitable weight limit, I dunno if there's anything stopping you adding a box to it?  In fact, if you're transporting a sub 100kg boat on a road base with 300Kg suspension units, adding weight may improve things.
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