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    Posted: 11 Jul 14 at 9:30am
Trident always used to give 10% off for Newcastle Uni SC and Durham Uni SC - they might still do that for all I know.
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That is exactly what two local chandlers do at WSC.  10%!
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Originally posted by Null

Originally posted by Chris 249

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cant believe i am agreeing with you twice Chris.

Don't worry, I hear you can get a script for it these days.  :-)

PS - 15 squid for membership and no marshalling duties? You lucky lucky b*stards; down here it's $250 and a couple of days marshalling.


I couldn't believe it, it also gives me free VIP membership to my local cycling superstore.  Which in itself is worth £30!!!  Giving me 15% off everything i buy.  I saved the membership fee with the purchase of my new saddle!

Why would you not join?



I have often wondered why regional chandlers outside the big three or four don't approach local clubs with a, let us advertise at your club and we will give all your members, for example, a 5% discount... Which I am guessing is pretty much what VIP membership is at you local cycle store.

Maybe this happens elsewhere in the country, just not on the Wirral
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Sailing on TV?
Ballyhome YC and F18 Worlds gang managed to drag the BBC along to Bangor.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/sailing/28208248
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Originally posted by Chris 249

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cant believe i am agreeing with you twice Chris.

Don't worry, I hear you can get a script for it these days.  :-)

PS - 15 squid for membership and no marshalling duties? You lucky lucky b*stards; down here it's $250 and a couple of days marshalling.


I couldn't believe it, it also gives me free VIP membership to my local cycling superstore.  Which in itself is worth £30!!!  Giving me 15% off everything i buy.  I saved the membership fee with the purchase of my new saddle!

Why would you not join?
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Originally posted by Null

 

cant believe i am agreeing with you twice Chris.

Don't worry, I hear you can get a script for it these days.  :-)

PS - 15 squid for membership and no marshalling duties? You lucky lucky b*stards; down here it's $250 and a couple of days marshalling.



Edited by Chris 249 - 10 Jul 14 at 11:22am
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Originally posted by Null

Originally posted by Chris 249

Originally posted by kneewrecker

Costly and inaccessible... Yep that too! But i'm afraid my experience of chatting about sailing to non-sailing mates is exactly like Russ's... A lot of them are lycra wearing roadies now, I find it quite ironic.

Is it irony? Maybe the key is that cycling is a lot more accessible than sailing - any one of us here could chuck a leg over the leading bikes in the Tour (or buy a bike just like it) and go for a ride around our home town. We can't do that with a kite AC72, foiling Moth or Volvo 65.

I'm much more of a sailor than a cyclist, but I can relate to the top cycling event more closely than I can relate to the AC these days. That seems to be ironic.

cant believe i am agreeing with you twice Chris...But, absolutely agree.  Look at me, I have recently purchased a new bike which is the same spec as used in the TDF, i can and have swung my leg over it.  i can race friends on Strava (like handicap racing on a spreadsheet)  I have done TT's, sportive everything.  I don't have to worry about sailing some stupid plastic learner dinghy and pulling on wet sailing school wetsuits and ill fitting buoyancy aids, i don't have to worry about taking RYA lvls 1-whatever at great cost to me, my cycling club membership is £15 a year, in which i can volunteer to marshal races or sportives if i want not waste 3 weekends a year freezing my box off watching 5 boats drift around a lake, i can roll my bike out in 2 minutes for a blast in the evening...Finally when i ride 100 miles friends are impressed, when i sail at 20 knots know one knows what the f**k that means!


Haha Null, I know what you mean! LOL
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Originally posted by Chris 249

Originally posted by kneewrecker

Costly and inaccessible... Yep that too! But i'm afraid my experience of chatting about sailing to non-sailing mates is exactly like Russ's... A lot of them are lycra wearing roadies now, I find it quite ironic.

Is it irony? Maybe the key is that cycling is a lot more accessible than sailing - any one of us here could chuck a leg over the leading bikes in the Tour (or buy a bike just like it) and go for a ride around our home town. We can't do that with a kite AC72, foiling Moth or Volvo 65.

I'm much more of a sailor than a cyclist, but I can relate to the top cycling event more closely than I can relate to the AC these days. That seems to be ironic.

cant believe i am agreeing with you twice Chris...But, absolutely agree.  Look at me, I have recently purchased a new bike which is the same spec as used in the TDF, i can and have swung my leg over it.  i can race friends on Strava (like handicap racing on a spreadsheet)  I have done TT's, sportive everything.  I don't have to worry about sailing some stupid plastic learner dinghy and pulling on wet sailing school wetsuits and ill fitting buoyancy aids, i don't have to worry about taking RYA lvls 1-whatever at great cost to me, my cycling club membership is £15 a year, in which i can volunteer to marshal races or sportives if i want not waste 3 weekends a year freezing my box off watching 5 boats drift around a lake, i can roll my bike out in 2 minutes for a blast in the evening...Finally when i ride 100 miles friends are impressed, when i sail at 20 knots know one knows what the f**k that means!
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For those on here old enough to remember, the 'Rio' Duran Duran video is most people's ides of what sailing is all about.
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Originally posted by Chris 249

Originally posted by Null

That's funny, I have had conversations with a number of my friends about perhaps trying sailing.  They all think it's an incredibly boring sport to watch, they don't understand the rules, or how the 'circuit' works, they don't think it's a physically demanding sport and to quote one of my close friends.  'I just don't get it' this question is usually followed up by how much is your boat worth and then a massive chuckle.  
Most of my friends find moths interesting, but when asked how fast they travel, again I was laughed at.  They don't think that 20-30 mph is fast, they are right!  Now obviously we have heated arguments over this when drinking beer, but this is a reoccurring theme with all of my non sailing friends.  I can't believe they are in the minority of now mid 30 something blokes that feel like that. 

It seems to vary enormously depending on where you live. I spent most of my life on Sydney Harbour, and both locals and tourists love the idea of getting out on it on a yacht. I'm always surprised how much non-sailors love getting out on the harbour and how little notice they take of the 18 Foot Skiffs and foiler Moths. Picnic sailing is what initally attracts most people, IMHO, and when dinghy sailing promoted that it did well. 

I think you're right about sailing speeds - compared to land sports or powered sports just about everything is slow. Even Sailrocket is slower than the world women's (recumbent) bicycle record, and as racing cyclists you and I could spend a lot of time quicker than an AC72 on downhills. Actually I'll leave that to you, I'm a wimp downhill and we have too many 'roos to hit on our descents!

It's complex, isn't it! What narks me is the dorks who think that promoting sailing is as simple as showing vids of fast boats.

Completely agree Chris and i guess it depends on demographic too.  30 something men, would prefer blasting down a hill on a Mtb then freezing their bollox off on a boat here.  18ft skiffs, Moths....whatever, stick it on TV, youtube, wherever.  if I showed most of my mates, they would just not get it.
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