Phantom Purchasing Guidelines

   Hopefully someone can guide me in the right direction on this one.
I'm looking to move into a Phantom this year and I want to find out which rig would be better suited to my size. I'll be buying second hand. I'm after an Ovington hull with carbon spars, but should I be looking for any particular rigs and sail cut? I'm 6'3" and just under 16st at the moment.
I have tried to join the Phantom class forum to ask this, but I've been waiting for them to approve me  

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Dan LXIX Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 04 Jun 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan LXIX Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Phantom Purchasing Guidelines Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 12:15am
	Hopefully someone can guide me in the right direction on this one. I'm looking to move into a Phantom this year and I want to find out which rig would be better suited to my size. I'll be buying second hand. I'm after an Ovington hull with carbon spars, but should I be looking for any particular rigs and sail cut? I'm 6'3" and just under 16st at the moment. I have tried to join the Phantom class forum to ask this, but I've been waiting for them to approve me

NeilB-Phantom Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 01 Mar 14 Location: Plymouth-UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote NeilB-Phantom Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 12:35am
	Hi I'm 6'5 and 17 stone. I have a Super spars large diameter mast and use a north CC14+ which is the medium cut (16+ was the full cut), now discontinued; I believe North now only make 1 cut of sail. P&B still do flat medium and full. Not many people use the full so far as I know, even at my size depowering is usually more of a isstue than a lack of power! The Super spars seems to suit me but I haven't tried any of the other varieties of carbon mast, super skinny CST masts now see to be most in vogue and other manufacturers seem to be going that way too. But I don't tink its actually that critical, the general condition and set up of the boat would make much more of a difference to you. My boat is set up for the taller chap and has the toe straps mounted nearer the centre line than standard, on my previous standard boat at 6'5 I had to use the opposite side toe strap to hike comfortably. Don't think there are many boats like mine about JJ custom low buoyancy on Ovington hull. Hope this helps Neil
	Phantom 1384 Dazcat D995

maxibuddah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxibuddah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 7:22am
	Pretty well any carbon rig would do to be honest. I wouldn't get too hung up about it. It's unlikely that you will find one but an older Superspar 55mm ought to be out at your weight and height, it's too flexible. Never had a Selden so not sure what is what with them. Cst as Neil says it's the latest fashion so if you can find one great. A medium cut p&b would be fine but you could go for a full cut. Will Gulliver used to use one to great effect, but due what he uses now. As for the hull do not write off the Vandercraft hulls post sail number 1100. The vast majority are just as quick as the ovi hulls. I can beat them with mine. They are down to weight and the same shape hull so there won't be any difference in speed.
	Everything I say is my opinion, honest

rb_stretch Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742	Post Options Post Reply Quote rb_stretch Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 7:34am
	At 6'6" and 15 1/2 stone I use the Selden S3 with North Cc14+ sail. Arguably I would be better with the Selden S2 which is a bit softer at the top, but as Maxi says, with your weight, all the rigs should be fine.

yellowwelly Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003	Post Options Post Reply Quote yellowwelly Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 4:56pm
	Buy the aero - half the price, just as quick!

Blue One Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 09 Nov 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317	Post Options Post Reply Quote Blue One Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 6:32pm
	Is that forum speed?

yellowwelly Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003	Post Options Post Reply Quote yellowwelly Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 6:49pm
	Either that or the infamous RS 'marketing machine' redefining the Laws of Physics ;-)

Blue One Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 09 Nov 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317	Post Options Post Reply Quote Blue One Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 6:57pm
	Don't think so, we both know nothing is faster than forum speed! Edited by Blue One - 09 Mar 14 at 6:59pm

getafix Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143	Post Options Post Reply Quote getafix Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 8:46pm
	Have you tried a Blaze, or if the water you sail on is big enough, a Contender? Might be worth tasting other dishes before ordering?

E.J. Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184	Post Options Post Reply Quote E.J. Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 14 at 9:33pm
	If your specifically looking for a Phantom as your post indicated; I wouldn't suggest a Contender or even a Blaze, I would suggest a Phantom.