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    Posted: 28 Jan 14 at 5:20pm
Had a good search and couldn't find any discussion on this, so:
 
Our 200 kite is like a tramps sock between the lower downhaul patch and the aft end of the foot.
Conventional wisdom seems to be it's caused by the downhaul causing friction on the drop,
and conventional widom again is that tapering the last few metres of the downhaul reduces said friction and reduces holes.
 
Is there more to it than this? Does it also relate to technique? Is there another fix?
 
I am not a fan of the the tapered downhaul idea as I can see all that Dyneema core swimming round in the bottom of the boat causing problems of it's own.
 
Advice please, we are wanting to order new kite.
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Is it a single or twin patched kite?
Do you tape up the shackles at the bottom and top of the jib?
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Twin patch, yes we tape bottom shackle and lower patch doesn't get anywhere near top shackle.
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Is there any rough bits or lumps in the chute moulding or on the foredeck where the kite lies when it is down?
Also are the screws exposed at the front end of the grab rails as they may be able to catch the kite when it is in the sock?
What about the nut under the bow eye bolt, is that smooth?
What about where the sock is screwed onto the chute moulding or where the chute moulding meets the foredeck, there must be something sharp there that is causing the holes.....

I sailed 200s for 8 years and I find this 'downhaul causing friction on the drop' idea as a load of tosh.
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Originally posted by GybeFunny


I sailed 200s for 8 years and I find this 'downhaul causing friction on the drop' idea as a load of tosh.
I'm glad you say that.
I will have a good look on sunday and see what parts of the boat that area of the sail can come into contact with. I know the chute mouth came with some rope wear grooves which we may be adding to.
I still think technique may have a part to play, if the sail is being dragged down as opposed to floating down then things might rub.
 
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I'm convinced 200 spinni holes are caused by the kite getting caught between the downhaul and the chute mouth.
 
Filling any ruts in the chute mouth will help as will sparing it with some prolube.
 
If my theory is right, using a tapered downhaul may make matters worse rather than better.
 
Having said all that, I have very few holes in any of my 200 spinnakers.
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Thanks Jaydub,
Is your downhaul tapered?
Any thoughts on drop technique?
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No it isn't.

We tend to just uncleat the halyard and pull the downhaul in fast unless it's absolutely honking.

The 200 kite is small enough that it isn't as critical to tension the downhaul before uncleating as it is in larger assy boats.
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We are taking in the slack 1st,,,,,mmmmm
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http://www.protect-tapes.com/products/chafe This stuff is your friend!
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