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    Posted: 26 Jul 13 at 8:52am
 I just looked at the RS Feva Worlds site. Do you know there are 65 British boats? That is 130 of our finest youth being shipped to Tuscany by......mum and dad?? I presume the boats are mainly loan boats. The Brits are dominating on the water and in sheer  numbers.

I can understand huge Oppy and Topper fleets because they are all going to be the next Big Ben but how is there such enthusiasim for the humble (roto) Feva. Or is there something going on here?
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If I had kids and they wanted to race in Tuscany, I'd have no problems at all funding that. Kids amused all day racing - mum and dad get to have a nice holiday in a great place.

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I bet they aren't loan boats.  I suspect those mums and dads are well used to ferrying kids all over the palce to major events at home and abroad, and why not.  There are 23 boats up at Bass for the NSSA champs (only one byte) (my guys are lying 8th in their first major event) and plenty more racing round the country. 

The Feva is a great boat for kids - low maintenance, easy to rig and sail, yet also looks cool enough to be desirable.  It has sounded the death knell for the mirror as a serious racer, which has effectively priced itself out of the market by making Winder the must-have boat for serious competitors.  Plus of course the kids see it as old fashioned.  a shame, but natural progress too.

That being said, I'm in the process of fixing an old woodie for two little lads who dinged their £300 ebay bargain on their first trip out.  They love the mirror, it's a great cheap way for them to sail together, until they can get enough cash and skill for a Feva...
the same, but different...

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I secretly can't wait for the time comes to buy a Feva for my girls.... chuck it on the back of the car for family holidays and it'll make a fun beach toy for me on my own for an hour or two.
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When we are often discussing the apparent problems of retaining young people in our sport it is impressive to me that bucket loads of kids will make that journey (with or without parents) into distant Europe particularly when NSSA is on at Bassenthwaite. Perhaps things are not as bad as we thought?
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It's what happens when it's not mum and dad driving it that is the worry.

My 14 year old loves sailing. He's working through the squad system (so many on here will hate him already), but he goes out sailing whenever he can, club races with the adults (whom he regards as his friends) and probably sails more at our club than anyone else.

This is very rare. Most of the juniors in the 'system' seem to only sail when it is a class event, or else someone is being paid to coach them. This is parent lead, rather than by the RYA. We rarely see these kids sailing for fun - maybe for them it isn't!

Looking at the ex-youths at our club, the ones that still have a passion for sailing are those that did both squad sailing and club racing/fun sailing when they were in their teens.
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To balance this encouraging information out......a rough count of the Brits at the Oppy Worlds.......ONE?
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but that's all the places allocated.


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Oh, I see, allocation......and my maths is bad.
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Originally posted by GarethT

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but that's all the places allocated.

of which 80 sailors are invited to try out for, with a stringent pre-entry criteria....


remind me to buy a tera instead if we go for singlehanders for my monkeys....

I think they've got a life of terms and conditions in front of them, assuming they were talented enough to sail at this level, I'd have hoped the following wouldn't really be necessary for a kids recreational sport:


This bit particularly stinks:

  1. Comply with any reasonable requests from IOCA (UK) and the RYA or their sponsors to undertake

    media or PR activity prior to, during and on return from event,

  2. 3.4.  Wear appropriate, supplied branded clothing at any and all times reasonably requested by the

    coaching staff and during any media or PR activity and also within any team activity prior, during and subsequent to the regatta – in particular where sailors may be interviewed, photographed or filmed in connection with their place in the Optimist Team GBR. 



Edited by yellowwelly - 26 Jul 13 at 3:36pm
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