NLP/hypnotism and performance

   Paul McKenna did some weird mind tricks on Maureen Lipman on telly last night in a programme about memory.

So...does anyone know of someone using such hypnotism or NLP to improve their sporting/sailing performance. I'm intrigued as to whether it would work. I'm also concerned about where the ethical boundaries may lie, but first things first. 

Could hypnotism improve our windy day gybing? Or fear of capsizing? Could it make the pain of hiking fade to a background nothingness?

Or are such mental techniques an exercise in merde-polishing?

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fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: NLP/hypnotism and performance Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 11:07am
	Paul McKenna did some weird mind tricks on Maureen Lipman on telly last night in a programme about memory. So...does anyone know of someone using such hypnotism or NLP to improve their sporting/sailing performance. I'm intrigued as to whether it would work. I'm also concerned about where the ethical boundaries may lie, but first things first. Could hypnotism improve our windy day gybing? Or fear of capsizing? Could it make the pain of hiking fade to a background nothingness? Or are such mental techniques an exercise in merde-polishing?
	Great book for Club Sailors here

pondmonkey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202	Post Options Post Reply Quote pondmonkey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 11:14am
	Sports psychologists use hypnotherapy as part of their toolkit... http://www.sportshypnosis.org.uk/hypnosis

transient Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715	Post Options Post Reply Quote transient Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 11:22am
	Not sure about hypnosis Visualisations work for me though....I discovered the technique years ago when I was a half way reasonable squash player. I would first watch Jahangir Khan playing the perfect backhand volley cross court drop and then imagine myself doing it.....It worked, well at least it improved that particular shot for me.....I do the same with sailing.... .....I can now sail like Jahangir Khan, crap Edited by transient - 19 Apr 13 at 11:24am

fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 11:50am
	I've covered some visualisation techniques in talks and my book and believe they are really useful. And the principles behind The Inner Game of Tennis are extremely enlightening. But it seems to me the hiking all day angle needs something a bit stronger. There is nothing on that link of pondmonkey's about improving endurance/discomfort-tolerance, which is interesting in it's omission. McKenna made Maureen talk about her dog winning Cruft's as if it really happened and she was absolutely comfortable with the fabrication. It made me wonder if we are only scratching the surface.
	Great book for Club Sailors here

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 12:48pm
	Hypnotism doens't work on people that are sceptical about it... it is entirely about suggestion, guilibility and people "playing along".
	-_ Al

MerlinMags Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Admin Group Joined: 19 Mar 04 Location: UK, Guildford Online Status: Offline Posts: 588	Post Options Post Reply Quote MerlinMags Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 1:40pm
	NLP and CBT are more reliable than hypnotism...sadly they require lots of hard work. Give me a quick fix any time!

Thunder Road Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Jun 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 372	Post Options Post Reply Quote Thunder Road Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 2:56pm
	I find after several Brandy and Babychams I sail far better than I normally sail, sadly I am still in the bar at the time, a fact well demonstrated on the Saturday evening at the Forumites event and no doubt every club in the land.
	Finn GBR16 Thunder Road.

blaze720 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635	Post Options Post Reply Quote blaze720 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 5:32pm
	Thunder Road I get the idea ... sort of like the longer you stand at the bar the better your sailing was earlier that afternoon... or last week ... or last year ... and especially 'when you were a lot younger' I find 'London Pride' or 'Doom Bar' works well for me but I'm happy to be introduced to Brandy and Babysham sometime. On a different subject but not a thousand miles away from 'Doom Bar' country there looks to be a likely 'gathering' of Icons at Falmouth Week in August on an informal basis ... Can you make it and cope with the 'Southern Tropics' in August ? Mike L.

pondmonkey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202	Post Options Post Reply Quote pondmonkey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 6:00pm
	It's a difficult on the best yachtsman's ale... I'm afraid Adnams gets it, purely for longest standing loyalty - best drunk at The Butt & Oyster in Pinmill; however I'd be lying if the Doom Bar hasn't become a bit of post windsurfing favourite when out in the back country.

Cameron Winton Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 08 Nov 11 Location: Prestwick Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote Cameron Winton Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 11:24pm
	Going back to NLP, being pushed for use in business for motivation and personal effectiveness. Is said to work for some but like above comment, need to believe in it for it to work. My boss recommended it, got some coaching, struggled with it and did some research. Talked about it with friends both of whom are academics and clinical psychologists. Quote: The worst kind of snake oil pseudo science. So that's me off finding something else to gee me up to better and greater things.