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    Posted: 11 May 07 at 8:44pm

Originally posted by Guest#260

This is part of the game ... the Anslie/Schite showdown in Sydney was the only bit of coverage from the games that really got any media coverage.

Surely 'Scheidt' ?!!!

But I thought the aim of sailing races was to find the fastest sailor, not the best lawyer?

We all love Ben, but personally I'd have been ashamed to win using those tactics. OK, it's the Olympics and they're all professionals, but imho anyone using those tactics at club level would be a tw@
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This is part of the game ... the Anslie/Schite showdown in Sydney was the only bit of coverage from the games that really got any media coverage.

Although this level of desire to win is probably a bit OTT in a club handicap race ... but then again if your don't want to race then just cruise ...
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Hornet at Shearwater... dont be silly. Your welcome to try of course.
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Everyone is being very kind to you Roger, saying you were the Moral victor and all, but lets face it, if you decided to sail a Waybarge at Shearwater you were lucky to come 2nd of 3, even, and deserved to come 4th! Where was your Hornet?!

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Oh, and P we reserve the Lions for the fishermen.
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As you say Jim off the water we are good friends so have to agree. On the day however most people had gone home leaving the three in contention to fight it out so in this situation I had to sail fast. No fleet to sail him down and he is a crafty b***er so my only option was to go for a win.
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I guessed the idea (roughly) shortly after I wrote that post but I thought I'd leave it up just to make sure I'd got the right idea. However, whilst probably not a problem in this example and dependant on the split of fleets in handicap racing, I would think this could be tricky in higher performance boats. For example, windy day and a very mixed assymetric fleet, if a 49er is trying to control a 2000 things could get very entertaining for the 9er, especially trying to go downwind without the kite. I suppose in some ways it would be like team racing, trying to prevent yourself getting seperated from the action!
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Originally posted by JimC

I personally wouldn't feel comfortable about doing that in a club handicap race. Its hardly the way to maintain the respect of your competitors.

Plus there's lions very near where Roger sails  Could turn nasty.
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I personally wouldn't feel comfortable about doing that in a club handicap race. Its hardly the way to maintain the respect of your competitors.
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Originally posted by CurlyBen

Sorry if this just shows I've never sailed in handicap races (or many fleet races for that matter!) but would that not just mean the slow boat comprehensively beats the fast boat and you're in the same position, but with a bigger discard for the fast boat?   

You would be able to sail the slow boat down the fleet (in handicap terms); and if they did escape you can just catch them up again.  you would bea ble to keep them in dirty air for the whole race;   It would work if the other boat would lose if the result of this race was a big discard for the slow boat (and a worse discard) for the fast boat.  Basically if the series was to be split on discards and the fast boat has a better discard going into this race, then the fast boat can sail the slow boat down the fleet so ensuring the slow boat has to count their (worse) discard as both boats will take this race as their discard.  

 

So in summary, it would work !

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