Projection 762 Help please?

   That's interesting simono, thanks for that. The only issue I can see is wanting to change to a small genoa if the wind really picks up. A few weekends ago we couldn't even send somebody forward to drop the #3 when we were on the run as we needed everybody hanging off the back to keep the bow out. If we'd had the #1 it would have been a real issue to change down.
I ask about kites because we've got an asy coming soon - in time for Port of Felixstowe if anybody's doing that. I could see us wanting to switch to the asy if it wasn't already up.

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TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Projection 762 Help please? Posted: 30 Apr 07 at 12:05pm
	That's interesting simono, thanks for that. The only issue I can see is wanting to change to a small genoa if the wind really picks up. A few weekends ago we couldn't even send somebody forward to drop the #3 when we were on the run as we needed everybody hanging off the back to keep the bow out. If we'd had the #1 it would have been a real issue to change down. I ask about kites because we've got an asy coming soon - in time for Port of Felixstowe if anybody's doing that. I could see us wanting to switch to the asy if it wasn't already up.
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simono Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 24	Post Options Post Reply Quote simono Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Apr 07 at 3:44pm
	all i could say is, get a lightweight foredeck crew! I know a couple of boats in irc that used to have twin forestay but its just extra air drag and hassle really for the number of times you may use it. Asymmetric sounds good. You might find you have a higher top speed with that up in stronger winds due to the higher efficiency of assys as the apparent wind angle comes forward. We were hoping to go to felixstow sail east, but i have exams over that weekend and so does my brother so we decided this weekend that its best not to go. We'll definately be at the other 4 events though. (Burnham, Medway, Ramsgate and Dabchicks) I hope we can get as many projections joining these events this year. I think we are also doing Burnham week which is supposed to be a very social regatta. (My crew and I enjoy the social part)

TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 9:10am
	We tried sending our lightest crew member forward (the only girl on board, approx 5'2" and skinny with it) and we quickly started going for the underwater route to the leeward mark. Have to work on that. The asy should be great - we'd have got some better speeds this weekend as we'd have been able to stay a touch flatter and open up some more. Can't wait to try it. We're doing PoFR and Dabchicks as we've got EAORA racing to do too. Definitely doing Burnham Week but people at our club have said the racing's a bit rubbish. I don't know how true that is and we're gong to do it anyway. Which class are you entering? There's at least one IRC one isn't there?
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TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 12:06pm
	Having just had a re-read of this thread I find Upstart seems to rate higher than a lot of other projections despite having a small kite and spin pole. Have attached a section from my certificate, could anybody identify where I'm getting penalised? Edited by TimC
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j hasson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 12 Dec 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote j hasson Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 12:36pm
	with a rating of .979 my projection is surely the most harshly rated! i have full size main, 150% genoa, 50.88m kite and 3.25mt pole. weight is 1300kg. spinnaker area is pretty cheap under irc so i'd say your higher rating comes from relatively light weight and max size genoa. i agree with the concensus that she likes a good breeze and seems to be a quick upwind boat. upwind flat water im aiming for 6.0 knots with lots of height easing for 6.2-4 when a chop presents itself and thats in about 10knots true. i'd really like iif nigel theadom could give us a few tips on rig set up!

TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 12:42pm
	That's a pretty tough rating but you do have +10sqm on your kite compared to me with weights about the same. Nigel Theadom owns the rig shop at the marina I'm berthed in and has been massively helpful with tips and other advice. He sorted out my chainplates and set my rig up. So all I have to do is sail the thing properly!
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DOUGk911 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 23 Nov 06 Location: Blyth , Northumberland Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Post Options Post Reply Quote DOUGk911 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 1:01pm
	I've set my rig up as instructed by info from Bryan some while ago , re set it once it settled after having chain plates modded . Had one of my crew check it with guage (He does rigging etc ..) I'm told numbers are all over the place , even though it looks good . Does anyone have numbers for setting up with Loos type guage ? We struggled somewhat in last weekends races , we had light 6-12 knots onshore with mixed up light sloppy swell .... its been suggested my helming was not the best which will no doubt be correct ! I don't think changing jibs will be much of a prob. one of my lightweight young ladies could have some fun and a poss good wash . We still aint had enough breeze to get her really motoring off wind ... soon enough no doubt , have lots of races over next couple of weeks .Fed up with light easterlies .AND its cool here as the rest of the country is cooking nicely ... fog this morning . Doug GBR7632R

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	TimC, Here's mine, 1.3 sqm less headsail, 4 sqm more kite, longer pole. Just goes to show what they say, Spin area is cheap under IRc. Once again I am thinking, a 762 with a 100% light, full jib and a 60sqm masthead kite (and a beefed up topmast!) now what would that be like? Btw, trounced by the J80s again this weekend, in lightish airs. My Genoa is knackered, anybody got a good one going spare? otherwise, I might have to spend some proper money Kev. Zulu

TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 1:28pm
	That's very interesting - the smaller genoa more than offsetting the larger kite. Weights seem interesting too. I notice you have std hull data at 1300. Upstart was 1240 when weighed and has 68kg added to the keel so is 1308 now in total. Other boats seem to weigh a good bit more than this - so I've clearly got a very light one. Edited by TimC
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simono Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 24	Post Options Post Reply Quote simono Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 May 07 at 2:41pm
	tim c, downwind in a blow, we keep our crew weight as far back and to windward as possible, this keeps maximum steerage for the rudder. Make sure the crew weight is moving in and out in the gusts so that the boat stays at the right heel angle for minimal tiller weight. And if you are in big waves you need to head up before the back of the next wave to get the bow out - never bear away into the back of a wave, if thats the only way to stop broaching then you need more weight aft and to windward or reduce the sail area. (we haven't got to this point, we just want more!!!!) Also before anyone goes forward to gybe or change sails, you must get yourself onto the top of a wave and follow it so that you are not sailing up the back of the next wave. When travelling up a wave, the apparent wind speed increases, the sheet loads increase, the flow over the rudder is significantly reduced and attempting to gybe is suicide!