Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
![]() |
Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
![]() |
Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
![]() |
List classes of boat for sale |
Spy photos |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <1 6768697071 179> |
Author | ||
Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posted: 07 Apr 07 at 7:00pm |
|
But only just.... They werent banned in the recent vote but with a result of 18-11 there are a lot of people out there who seem to think thats too far development wise... Interestingly the proposal NOT to lower the minumum weight was passed. |
||
![]() |
||
JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I don't think anyone actually made a case for it being a bad rating. The mast was designed to run a coach and horses through the measurement rules by being draggy, but not as desperately draggy as it looked on paper. So the measurer looked at the rule book and the book said that it was his job to give the rig a fair rating rather than stick to the letter of the measurement rule. So that's what he did, and toys were thrown out of the pram. It was an example of a problem that often seems to hit yacht handicap rules. There's a tension between allowing innovatiuon and giving a fair rating to all boats. If the rule aims to give every boat a fair handicap then it should immediately deal with innovations that creep round the rule. This is in contrast with box rules, where there's no question of a fair rating - if you can design a faster boat within the box then good luck. And of course the other issue is that too often in such rules innovations were like that mast - slow, but not as desperately slow as the measurement system thinks it is. Its not really a great way of improving the breed! |
||
![]() |
||
BBSCFaithfull ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Most modern 14s are made with a lot of lead in them so they weight normally about 60ish kilos. i.e kate nurton and archie masseys etc. Ive been in itchenor this weekend and i have been sailing with the class world sec who said that the weight reduction was halted to enable boats in two years to be lessened etc so when the morrison 13 etc comes out the boat will be the specific weight etc |
||
Greatfully Sponsored By
www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
||
![]() |
||
Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
I thought it was super-quick. I saw Krazy K-yote and her mast close up and it was truly a thing of great beauty in my opinion. |
||
![]() |
||
Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
QUOTE=JimC]
And of course the other issue is that too often in such rules innovations were like that mast - slow, but not as desperately slow as the measurement system thinks it is. Its not really a great way of improving the breed![/QUOTE] I thought it was super-quick The chaps I worked with raced against it in an AC tune-up regatta and said it was ballistic. I saw Krazy K-yote and her mast close up and it was truly a thing of great beauty in my opinion. The rig didn't rotate but they wound a bunch of twist into the mast upwind with the windward runner. Awesome! |
||
![]() |
||
Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
![]() |
||
Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Saw this at the weekend, utter, total carbon fibre pornography!! Want one!!! I just lurve the way that the headsail tacks down just behind the chute mouth on that unsupported central spine. About 23' long...just awesome. |
||
RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
||
![]() |
||
Contender 541 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 05 Location: Burton on Trent Online Status: Offline Posts: 1402 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Hubba Hubba That is a bit nice |
||
When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss
Crew on 505 8780 |
||
![]() |
||
SetSail ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
sheer elegance
![]() seen it on the water? how does it sail? |
||
RS821 - Now for sale, PM for details
|
||
![]() |
||
JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
|
Exactly so. That was the game. Their idea was that they'd get a rating for a huge thick oversize non rotating mast, and twist it so that the performance was midway between that and a rotating section. They then got given, just as the rule said, a rating that reflected how they actually used the thing, and they threw their toys out of the pram and stopped sailing. They actual value of the thing other than as a rule evasion is nicely demonstrated by the number of others that have been built - ie none. |
||
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page <1 6768697071 179> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |