Projection 762 Help please?

   that`s fighting talk....All three projections are in the piss down this way, still awaiting class status... 2 more and we have a class, there just are not enought 762`s built for this to really take off.

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detente Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 04 Mar 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote detente Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Projection 762 Help please? Posted: 09 Apr 09 at 12:37pm
	that`s fighting talk....All three projections are in the piss down this way, still awaiting class status... 2 more and we have a class, there just are not enought 762`s built for this to really take off.

chic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 20 Dec 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote chic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Apr 09 at 10:15pm
	Thought you might like to know that Hobbes has been officially weighed at 1319Kg. We don't carry much on board - no upholstery etc. but she was lighter than expected. A 150 mile round trip as well!

chic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 20 Dec 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote chic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Apr 09 at 9:01pm
	I'm looking for advice again... I'm assuming that a number of P762 owners take part in ISAF cat4 events. Most of the regulations are clear, but I'd like to know others opinions as to what areas are problematic for the Projection and how they have resolved the issues. I'm particularly concerned about nav lights and toilet, although the former would be relatively easy to rectify. I'd be grateful if you could let me know soon... I have days to decide whether we enter Scottish Series as an IRC boat or an SBR boat! Thanks, Chic

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	Hi Chic Cat 4 not a problem - a fitted bucket is all you need to comply. This can be one of the buckets required in the safety regs with a fixing point on it - a couple of bungee loops you slide it into will suffice if they hold it there.
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chic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 20 Dec 06 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote chic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 09 at 12:25pm
	Thanks Tim, think I can manage that! We don't currently have NAV lights - I'm not quite sure from the regs whether you need them even if they're not used or whether you only need to SHOW them if you are racing past nautical sunset. Any opinions would be welcomed. Chic

TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 09 at 6:47pm
	Hi Chic The Cat 4 monohuls document is [4350">.pdf">here It says they need to be shown at the appropriate times but I'm not sure you'd pass an inspection if they weren't mounted. I did an event a bit back that was Cat 4 minus nav lights which makes me think they would need to be mounted. Very simple job though and not expensive!
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F Word Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 16 Oct 08 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 35	Post Options Post Reply Quote F Word Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 09 at 12:07pm
	You can get those temporary nav lights, they are about 15 quid each. Its interesting looking at CAT 3. I think my 762 isnt far off it with its full regalia, most of the spec could be reached with a little work. You need running water which could be rigged up I'm sure. The only problem is the SSS/STIX, its so low on the 762.
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TimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Posting king Joined: 18 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 153	Post Options Post Reply Quote TimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 09 at 5:21pm
	Running water is actually very simple - a collapsable water tank with a manual all in one tap/pump. Just don't put anything in it. If anybody gets a projection to Cat 3 I'll be amazed. Since the SSSN adjustment was dropped and it's base only we have to find 3 more points somewhere. Short of massively reduced sail area or a new keel I can't see it happening!
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detente Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 04 Mar 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote detente Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 09 at 12:13pm
	Tim You are entirely correct in your statement. Rorc introduced the reduction of various boats SSSN along with their Fudge Factor adjustment ability to move certain boats hull factor based on no data what so ever...in order to prevent silly people entering long offshore passage races in small sportsboat type boats. (P762 included in this). Very frustrating!! as the 762`s sea keeping qualities are quite good despite being a dit on the damp side. We are hopefully doing more offshore if race comittee allows... Better start handing out the snorkles!

brys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Groupie Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote brys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 09 at 12:59pm
	IMHO it is a shame that sssn and stix are such a crude tool for race organisers to lean on.(hide behind?) So called stability criteria (and to some extent IRC) have slowed the rate of development of small to medium sized yacht over the years. The P762 is not such a radical boat as say aTP52 but gets hammered to death in comparison. SSN and STIX seem to take no account of the fact that in heavy weather racing crews reef their craft to suit the conditions to maintain best performance. As has been said before (ad nauseum) vested intrests and conservative attitudes in the higher echelons of yachting will always dominate how thing develop in the mainstream....After all, apart from the few of us (elightened ones?) who wants to see a £15K investment keep winning races over those who have invested 10 times that in their heavy & slow (but safe?) boats... The RYA Sportsboat rule is fine and dandy if there is a sensible sized local fleet of sportsboats for race organisers to lay on races for but useless away from major centres... What is perhaps needed is a relaxing of the inshore/sheltered water regatta rules on SSN and STIX for an experimental period.....and /or maybe a better definitions of what are inshore / shelted waters?
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