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    Posted: 18 Mar 09 at 10:46pm
Y&Y News is now a "Rooster Blog" ?

http://yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=145662

Originally posted by For those who CBA reading it


TL;DR:

Chicken Power went to his physio (Advert included, Other Physios are available) with a sore hip. Then embarked on a trip to Germany for lots of tests. The came home chowing on what is effectively a plastic lollystick.


Oh well, its got a good plot, and has a character named "Wolfgang" who really is German! Much win!

Y&Y ... WHY do you allow "news" articles such as that? Just seems like he is making a total joke of the system.


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I had to check it wan't April Fools day - but if it helps me sail on into my 'dotage' I'm interested!
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Not just a blog- a blog posting quackery and pseudoscience.
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And really, it is a CLASSIC example of a quackery puff-piece- a "testimonial" type article with no criticism, no discussion of the efficiacy, the potential risks- hell, no discussion of the costs involved. Just one apparently satisfied customer.

I like to know from Steve: are you getting anything in return from Wolfgang for your promotional efforts?
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Originally posted by alstorer

a "testimonial" type article with no criticism, no discussion of the efficiacy, the potential risks- hell, no discussion of the costs involved.


We do have a discussion option with all news articles - feel free to put your opinions! You never know though - this might just work for Steve's hip!
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It may. But there's no evidence AK actually works in the way it is claimed- chiropody in general is on pretty shaky ground.

It's a trust issue, more than anything else. I think most people here respect Steve's ability and knowledge as relates to sailing and sailing equipment. This article abuses that trust by using that repect to try and flog us something medical instead.

There's various tricks, classics of this sort of story- for instance, the recommendation from Steve's friend, who appears to be (and here's a suprise for any followers of Bad Science) a pill salesman? Again, no disrepect to his sailing abilities, but by "qualified doctor" is he a medical doctor, a doctor of philosophy (PhD by accreidited insitution) or even (worst case) a doctor like Gillian McKeith is?

But all this shouldn't matter- it shouldn't be about perosnalities, or "my good friend", or a single positive annecdote from a "trustworthy" source. It should be about verifiable efficiacy. And it shouldn't be in an advertorial on a sailing site.

I'm going to do more digging later. I have actual work to do in the meantime.
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Originally posted by The Article Author

My hip feels more comfortable ...


Originally posted by Mark Jardine

  You never know though - this might just work for Steve's hip!


Im sure the resultant reduction in weight of his wallet will reduce the discomfort on his hip!

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Right, some prelim stuff. With regards the "AK test" done by the dentist mentioned in paragraph 5- am I right in thinking it involved holding sealed phials containing the substances near the face? If so, this short article from the BMJ is all the comment required.
More, later. This is fun!
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From:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/ak.h tml

Research Findings

Although the claims of applied kinesiology are so far removed from scientific reality that testing them might seem a waste of time, competent researchers have subjected the muscle-testing procedures to several well-designed controlled tests and demonstrated what should be obvious to rational persons. Some have found no difference in muscle response from one substance to another, while others have found no difference between the results with test substances and with placebos.


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Originally posted by Mark Jardine


We do have a discussion option with all news articles - feel free to put your opinions! You never know though - this might just work for Steve's hip!

Mark,

I think the discussion on news articles being seperate from the forum dosn't work ... there are 2 threads now on this issue ... is it possible to link the two systems otherwise you just end up with parallel discussions.
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