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    Posted: 27 Feb 07 at 5:32pm
Its got TWO daggerboards!!
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someone put the racks on a moth on its side
600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Saw this at Weston. Anyone know what it is?

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lol, thats a good point!
Needs to sail more...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 8:14pm
I can see all those female olympic sailors being realy bothered about if it fit's in a garage!   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Granite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 2:00pm

I beleve that the boat above has removable wings. As the dingy parking fees at my sailing club are bassed on the width of the boat that is a good thing

The 14's used to have a limit on the max length of the spars so that they could travel on a train for I think 1d

The Mirror used to have a two peice mast/gaff so you could fit the spars in the boat.

even with all the extra hanging over bits the Cherub is still shorter than most boats and most family cars so will still fit in most garages.

if not then just go for a swinging gantry

If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Rob

Traditionally, boats described as being 'N' footers were N feet overall, e.g. an Int 14 was 14ft overall, and they were designed without overhangs to maximise waterline length. This meant if you could just get it in your garage, you got the max waterline length boat for your garage.

Now we're getting permanently-fitted rudder gantries and whatever which don't count towards the overall measured length, so that a 12ft Cherub now requires roughly the same space as a traditional Int 14 used to. The upshot is that you end up with less than the max possible waterline length boat in your garage, which means that on average you go slower than your garage would potentially permit if the overhangs weren't there or were readily detachable.

You did ask me to spell it out!

p.s. and you pay more ground rent, as Wight said while i was still composing my reply!



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Post Options Post Options   Quote I luv Wight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 6:44pm
The point is.... a cherub is not a 12 footer, but is only 12 footish - 3.700m long ( about 12 foot 3inches
also that the length is the 'waterline' length, excluding the snout and an unlimited rudder gantry ( which must also be above the waterline, a bit of fuzzy rule-wording here. )

A bit like a Flying Fifteeen.. that is actually 20 feet long.

The radical narrow mothish 12'skiff has had some legality issues re their buoyant planing surface gantry.

Moths also have had some issues about this.

A cherub is in reality about 15+ foot long, if you include the snout, retracted pole, and rudder gantry / wing tubes past the transom.

The overall length has affected boat site fees that are dependent on area taken in the boat park.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rob.e Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Ah, right, so that makes a Fireball a 13 footer, then? Likewise the GP 14?

Never mind, I'm only teasing.

Yes, but they don't have a vertical stem/transom, which the Cherub clearly has . Sorry, but I don't understand what point you're trying to make!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Granite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 07 at 10:16am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Looks great, so long as you're planing. I like the idea of carrying the chines right forward.


But when is a 12 foot boat not a 12 foot boat? When it's a Cherub, apparently. Is that a rudder gantry and is it detachable?



when it is 3.7m?
If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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