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    Posted: 18 Jan 07 at 1:36pm

Originally posted by HelenF

Bloody Mary was highligted in response to dinghy sailors wanting non
single-class event reports, not cat sailors!

As for whether we'll send someone to cover cat events — you'll notice
that we rarely 'send' people to cover any class regattas. Instead we need
some help from class associations and event organisers to submit Clubs
and Classes reports and keep us up to date with what's happening in their
season — the 2006 Racing Classes Review guide listed a massive 175
classes, there's no way we could keep on top of all them otherwise!

If you've got a big or anniversary event coming up, let us know — send us
an email (editorial@yachtsandyachting.com) letting us know when and
where and who to contact. Likewise, if you have some news that you think
our Multimad, Roll tacks, or other columnists should know about, let us
know and we'll pass it on. We WANT to hear from you!

 

THe thing is that we did send you umpteen reports (form the Grafham Cat open for example) that ended up on the Website, but never made it into the Mag - How did that happen ?

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Bloody Mary was highligted in response to dinghy sailors wanting non
single-class event reports, not cat sailors!

As for whether we'll send someone to cover cat events — you'll notice
that we rarely 'send' people to cover any class regattas. Instead we need
some help from class associations and event organisers to submit Clubs
and Classes reports and keep us up to date with what's happening in their
season — the 2006 Racing Classes Review guide listed a massive 175
classes, there's no way we could keep on top of all them otherwise!

If you've got a big or anniversary event coming up, let us know — send us
an email (editorial@yachtsandyachting.com) letting us know when and
where and who to contact. Likewise, if you have some news that you think
our Multimad, Roll tacks, or other columnists should know about, let us
know and we'll pass it on. We WANT to hear from you!
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Originally posted by English Dave

What size of event do you need to have before Y&Y will give more than a cursory glance?

If we have 60+ boats at the Hurricane Europeans this summer, will Y&Y send someone to cover it or, better still, enter a boat? I know it's Northern Ireland but flights are cheap and, if it helps, I'll pick you up from the airport. Canvey is only 50/50 at the mo so you could borrow his boat. (Mark, the commute from Algeria to Canvey must be a cow-son).

Didn't catch the Hugh Styles article but I'm guessing that it went along the lines of "Crew lower than helm, trap high in medium winds and waves, low in a flat breeze. Forward upwind but move aft downwind to keep the trim. Crew and helm stand together to reduce windage." If there was more rocket science to it than that then I apologise.

To save the busy reader time in the newsagents here's the Ben Ainslie guide to hiking in full: "Lean out in the gusts."

 

I think I read that in a Magazine somewhere

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What size of event do you need to have before Y&Y will give more than a cursory glance?

If we have 60+ boats at the Hurricane Europeans this summer, will Y&Y send someone to cover it or, better still, enter a boat? I know it's Northern Ireland but flights are cheap and, if it helps, I'll pick you up from the airport. Canvey is only 50/50 at the mo so you could borrow his boat. (Mark, the commute from Algeria to Canvey must be a cow-son).

Didn't catch the Hugh Styles article but I'm guessing that it went along the lines of "Crew lower than helm, trap high in medium winds and waves, low in a flat breeze. Forward upwind but move aft downwind to keep the trim. Crew and helm stand together to reduce windage." If there was more rocket science to it than that then I apologise.

To save the busy reader time in the newsagents here's the Ben Ainslie guide to hiking in full: "Lean out in the gusts."



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I agree with shadowman that Y&Y and even Dinghy Mag do little in reporting grass roots of cat sailing. Even with Helen sarcasm and trapezing tips from Hugh Styles, which you already probably covered the year before the mag only wants to report the in fleets and the big budget manufactures. 

So to finish on Helen comments that we might miss bits while glansing at the newagents. I hate to say thats all you need to do if you are reading the multi section looking for grass roots cat sailing.

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Originally posted by HelenF

Thanks for the feedback - always good to hear.
Check out the current (January 12) and next (January 26) issues. For cat
sailors there's a test of the TopCat and 'Magnificent Machines' which
features some radical multihulls, while if you're after multi-class dinghy
events there's full reports on the Bloody Mary and Grafham Grand Prix.
You might miss those bits if you just glance at it in the newsagents!

Cat sailors should also check out Hugh Styles' recent trapezing tips
series, with lots of cat-specific tips. Unless you think you've nothing to
learn from an Olympic Tornado sailor...

 

Thing is Helen, the Bloody Mary does not allow Cats. 

I agree with Shadowman, Cat sailing is not getting the appropiate exposure IMO.  

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Helem - I still have a subscription but you have not really answered my criticism of why you no longer report major events. We had 196 competitors at Grafham with a numbber of seperate championships and you have not reported them bar the F18 Inlands in Clubs and classes - in spite of us getting reports to you. I don't remember seeing any coverage of the Piers race. Perhaps you could ask the Editor to explain why these key events among others in the UK Cat calendar aren't covered. I can remember when they were. IF any of the cat manufacturers took full page ads every week would that help?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote HelenF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 07 at 12:51pm
Thanks for the feedback - always good to hear.
Check out the current (January 12) and next (January 26) issues. For cat
sailors there's a test of the TopCat and 'Magnificent Machines' which
features some radical multihulls, while if you're after multi-class dinghy
events there's full reports on the Bloody Mary and Grafham Grand Prix.
You might miss those bits if you just glance at it in the newsagents!

Cat sailors should also check out Hugh Styles' recent trapezing tips
series, with lots of cat-specific tips. Unless you think you've nothing to
learn from an Olympic Tornado sailor...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote charlie1019 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 07 at 10:26am
Personally I know many dinghy sailor who think Y and Y has gone a very similar way with the dinghy input and now  rarely buy it. Nearly £4 is a lot of money for a mag that you can read all the 'interesting' bits before you've even got to the front of the smith's que...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Shadowman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 07 at 2:16pm
Do we think that Y&Y's coverage of the cat scene is that good anyway? They have not covered any of the big Cat Opens in a special report for ages - nothing on Forts, Piers, GW. In fact they only seem to do the manufacturer led events these days in dinghies! Jeremy Evans seems to write more and more about either the elite squad sailors and big boat sailing and has clearly decided that turning up and reporting events is beneath him. I'm beginning to wonder whether the sub is worth paying!
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