% penalty for winning races

Does anyone use any form of % penalties for winning races?  i.e. if you win Race 1 then you carry say a 10% time penalty into Race2?

Something we are looking into, so the club legends don't keep winning everything and some mere mortals can have their moment of glory

We are currently using Sailwave and i can see any easy way of applying this rule (through a score code) other than manualy adding 10% on to the time entered

Alex

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Originally posted by AlexM Does anyone use any form of % penalties for winning races?  i.e. if you win Race 1 then you carry say a 10% time penalty into Race2? Something we are looking into, so the club legends don't keep winning everything and some mere mortals can have their moment of glory We are currently using Sailwave and i can see any easy way of applying this rule (through a score code) other than manualy adding 10% on to the time entered Alex

 

Just amend their handicap!

sailwave allows you to adapt the handicap, for either one race or until further notice.

we run is as first 4 have their handicaps ajusted 20/15/10/5, and the last 4 too.

ours is cumulative, and runs alongside the existing scratch series, allowing us to give a prize to the person that has improved the most over the course of a series.

you can get to quite big gaps. we have over 200 points between the fastest and slowest, and when ajusted it comes out within a minute if everyone has sailed their average positions. It means someone who normally sails off the front but only just squeaks a race ahead of the fleet, they are going to end up off the back by the time the personals are factored in.

 

We run a system of personal handicaps based on adding minutes minutes. The top (insert number of boats here) in each race are given a handicap correction and the bottom (insert number of boats here) are given a handicap correction. Maximum of 16 minute subtraction and the scratch men on 0. This is used for a particular series designed to encourage beginners and recent course 'graduates' to start racing. This is a very informal series, and this system is not used outside of this series. We used to run them as pursuit races which meant the correction was easily added or subtracted to the start times. Really to keep it 'fair' across the board the correction needs to be applied to the corrected time. With average lap times and the like the correction might be too large. Obviously the other issue is that the handicaps and alterations need to be kept track of, along with assignment of initial handicap numbers. I would not advocate the use of this system outside of a series specifically for this purpose, the informality allows for the more experienced racers, safety boat crews and the like to offer advice.

Originally posted by AlexM i just thought if we could bring in "speed fines" that only lasted the next race it would be more fair??

So if Mr Club Loser wins the first race of the day becuase he had a bit of luck and sailed well he will be penalised in the next race to let Mr Club Champ go through. Not much of an incentive.

Have you thought of a buddy system where the top guy teams up with the bottom guy after the first race and their results are combined for the event (or something like that)? This will also give a chance of the good guys to mentor the bottom ones and pass on advice and the tactics they used.