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    Posted: 11 Nov 08 at 5:53pm

It seems a little odd to me that certain people would go to the trouble of developing a boat especially for the trials and then not submit for the final selection. I would be interested to hear the whole story behind this, as it appears ISAF are maybe not being as transparent as they should be.*

* I've done no research whatsoever into this, this is just judging from the comments made on this thread.  
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Originally posted by alstorer

Which XX though? The original, with the 59er rig and some short wheelie bars added? Or the one Bethwaites were trying with a new rig and a rudder gantry?

A very good point!
from ISAF Regulations...
17. ISAF EVENTS
Selection of Classes for ISAF Events
17.1 Only ISAF Classes shall be selected for ISAF events.
17.1.1 Notwithstanding Regulation 17.1, the Council may approve a non-ISAF Class boat for ISAF Match Racing and Team Racing events other than Olympic events.
17.1.2 Notwithstanding Regulation 17.1, the Council may approve the selection of a non-ISAF Class boat that has been recommended as a result of an ISAF Equipment Evaluation.


I hadn't heard there were any recommendations out of the womens' boat trials...


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Originally posted by Guest#260

The womens keelboat for match racing looks to be the Elliot 6 what ever that is ...



Do we know whether this is going to be a pure Match racing event or is it going to be like the Solings where there was fleet racing and then the top 4 match it out?
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Originally posted by Alex C

It seems a little odd to me that certain people would go to the trouble of developing a boat especially for the trials and then not submit for the final selection. I would be interested to hear the whole story behind this, as it appears ISAF are maybe not being as transparent as they should be.*

* I've done no research whatsoever into this, this is just judging from the comments made on this thread.  

I suspect many gave up once the womens double hander high performance event didn't make the slate and didn't realise that they could submit for the womens double hander ...

When I saw the list of submitted equipment some time ago I was surprised to see no RS800/GT60/Daemon Cherub ...



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I really hope the 470 keeps its slot, and that is coming from a former 29er sailor.

From the reports I heard and the sailors i spoke to, the 29erxx was the least favourite boat, from what I heard the 800 was the sailors choice.

I might be biased as I am a former member of staff at RS/LDC, and now working at the builders of the 800, I thought the reworked 800 was an excellent boat for the girls to sail. The boat which was at the trials was developed further, but never brought to the public eye due to the decisions ISAf took at the time, but being one of only 3 people to sail it, I can safely say that it was an excellent boat!
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Originally posted by Stevie_GTI

I really hope the 470 keeps its slot, and that is coming from a former 29er sailor.


From the reports I heard and the sailors i spoke to, the 29erxx was the least favourite boat, from what I heard the 800 was the sailors choice.


I might be biased as I am a former member of staff at RS/LDC, and now working at the builders of the 800, I thought the reworked 800 was an excellent boat for the girls to sail. The boat which was at the trials was developed further, but never brought to the public eye due to the decisions ISAf took at the time, but being one of only 3 people to sail it, I can safely say that it was an excellent boat!



There was an 800 popped out for a blast during the Ovi event at Grafham the other week with sail number "2012" and the 2012 flags on it. Was that it?
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So at the last meeting council discarded the the recommendation of the equipment committee and we lost the cat.

All the sailors cam out and back the eqipmemnt committee as the people who knew best.

Now the eqipment committee and the womens committee recommend the 29erXX over the 470 ... do we still back them, I do ...

 

 
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There was an 800 popped out for a blast during the Ovi event at Grafham the other week with sail number "2012" and the 2012 flags on it. Was that it?[/QUOTE]

Did it have a mast head kite and a square top main, plus other things i wont mention?

 
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Originally posted by Guest#260

Now the eqipment committee and the womens committee recommend the 29erXX over the 470...

Well I didn't back them last time: I didn't think their slate was very clever considering the paralympics. This time I don't think its very clever considering the smaller countries...

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