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    Posted: 04 Nov 08 at 5:07pm

at 95 kgs i would have a go in  vareo you would steam upwind at that weight just a bit quicker than a laser upwind but downwind its just the greatest ride you could have without being on the wire .

rs do have test boats that you can try out why not try before you buy you have nothiung to lose

 

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Originally posted by mike ellis

The rest of the time the boat is a dream, upwind its so nicely balanced and so quick, leaving just about everything apart from canoes and 49ers behind (even 700s), 

Never been taken by a 600 on a beat yet! They are just a bit jealous......

But seriously, the 700 is easier than a 600...

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thanks guys am still trying to make up my mind.....

im 95 kgs an am pretty much a expierenced club (nationals) dinghy sailor.

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The 600 is only a pig downwind in the light (when there isnt enough wind to push the boom out). This is because the kicker pulls the boom into the centre line as you need it slightly tight when the main is right up to be able to grind on enough in the windy stuff. Also you need to sit right forward to get the transom out, by right forward i mean on the foredeck, this is less than ideal for holding the boom out. However once you get into position the boat is reasonably stable  especially if you manage to hold the boom out (it's all relative, the 600 is not particularly stable, but compared to it sitting stationary on the slipway it is stable).

The rest of the time the boat is a dream, upwind its so nicely balanced and so quick, leaving just about everything apart from canoes and 49ers behind (even 700s ), and as it gets windier it just goes faster and faster. Also you have the option of the baby rig for learning/strong winds, although most of the UK circuit only use the baby rig when it gets "proper windy" as if you can keep the thing just about going upwind then the pay off with the big rig on a reach is too much not to have. It is a beautiful boat to look at as well.

You will have to excuse the bias.

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Originally posted by NickA

Wooow!  Big jump from a laser to an RS700.  Though I guess the water in UAE is nice and warm.  It would need to be.

Maybe try a contender first, but only if you get regular strong wind.  Or a Vareo if you don't necessarily want to trapeze but do want a kite and then move on to an RS 600/700, MPS, IC etc later.

So far no-one makes a dedicated, asymetric, trapeze, single hander for the less than heroic sailor.

You'd have to tell us your weight and skill level really.


A lot of people move from the Laser to the 700 including me - it's emminently do-able for a good club sailor. 

I did buy a Contender for a few months while I had the 700 on order but apart from meeting some very nice people, there was very little which I learnt that helped in the 700. 

The 700 is not quite as full on as people think, although I'd never describe it as easy.  The soft sail, wider more stable hull form, pump system and cockpit design are all there to make the boat as accessible as possible.

After all, if I can sail one, (almost) anyone can!

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RS300 has to be the obvious step up from the laser? i did it and theres just something magical about the 300. so nicely balanced, fast yet tactical. not sure how easy it will be to get one out there though
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Blaze - Good but has a following similar to the Solo (not raced by teens/twenties people)

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the 700 is more forgiving than the 600, especially downwind!

 

600's are pigs to dail down wind so i've been told by someone that ownes a 600

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Wooow!  Big jump from a laser to an RS700.  Though I guess the water in UAE is nice and warm.  It would need to be.

Maybe try a contender first, but only if you get regular strong wind.  Or a Vareo if you don't necessarily want to trapeze but do want a kite and then move on to an RS 600/700, MPS, IC etc later.

So far no-one makes a dedicated, asymetric, trapeze, single hander for the less than heroic sailor.

You'd have to tell us your weight and skill level really.


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Contender as an alternative to the 600.
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