what boat
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Topic: what boat
Posted By: rudderlesslaser
Subject: what boat
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 3:06pm
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mmmmm... am rlly tired of lasers can anyone suggest a good singlehander (that is fast) im thinkin topper topaz uno race X or RS700/600 got any ideas?????? |
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 3:17pm
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Probably not the Topaz. I don't think you'd find it an advance on the Laser...
There are of course foiling Moths in the middle east, but that's a very big jump from the Laser. You need to decide on kite or not, trapeze or not, other local boats or not. For my money the performance singlehanders that are most worth considering are:- RS300 for a sparkling sit on the side boat RS600/Contender for wire without kite RS700/Musto Skiff for wire and kite International Moth with/without foils for a lighter weight sailor with very good experience, but maintenance might be an issue and, of course International Canoe, available with or without kite for unbeatable style:-) |
Posted By: Ian29937
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 3:41pm
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There are some RS700's in Dubai. You could set up the middle east Championship!
Ian RS700 GBR960 http://www.sail4cancer.org - www.sail4cancer.org
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Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 5:26pm
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yep know your pain! Am thinking myself what to get next, I also had: Blaze - Good but has a following similar to the Solo (not raced by teens/twenties people) Vareo - sounds good but not for PY racing. So the 600 is a good idea but not the easiest to sail. But if your up for a challenge... 700 - if you have the guts the Moth if you have the cash! ------------- |
Posted By: foaminatthedeck
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 5:33pm
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Contender as an alternative to the 600.
------------- Lark 2170 |
Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 7:39pm
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Wooow! Big jump from a laser to an RS700. Though I guess the water in UAE is nice and warm. It would need to be. Maybe try a contender first, but only if you get regular strong wind. Or a Vareo if you don't necessarily want to trapeze but do want a kite and then move on to an RS 600/700, MPS, IC etc later. So far no-one makes a dedicated, asymetric, trapeze, single hander for the less than heroic sailor. You'd have to tell us your weight and skill level really. ------------- Javelin 558 Contender 2574 |
Posted By: feva sailor
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 8:43pm
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the 700 is more forgiving than the 600, especially downwind!
600's are pigs to dail down wind so i've been told by someone that ownes a 600 |
Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 31 Oct 08 at 12:03am
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Blaze - Good but has a following similar to the Solo (not raced by teens/twenties people) eeerrm - oh yes they are - perhaps you better put 'Blaze Nationals 2008' into UTube ... most of us do look a little young(er) to say the least ... so do you think you could keep up either on or off the water ..... bet UR over 30 anyway and thinking about you pipe / slippers and sad man mortgage ! try http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tDjECk4_rdo - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tDjECk4_rdo Blaze720
Blaze720 |
Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 31 Oct 08 at 12:31am
RS300 has to be the obvious step up from the laser? i did it and theres just something magical about the 300. so nicely balanced, fast yet tactical. not sure how easy it will be to get one out there though ------------- Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse |
Posted By: Ian29937
Date Posted: 03 Nov 08 at 12:15pm
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A lot of people move from the Laser to the 700 including me - it's emminently do-able for a good club sailor. I did buy a Contender for a few months while I had the 700 on order but apart from meeting some very nice people, there was very little which I learnt that helped in the 700. The 700 is not quite as full on as people think, although I'd never describe it as easy. The soft sail, wider more stable hull form, pump system and cockpit design are all there to make the boat as accessible as possible. After all, if I can sail one, (almost) anyone can! Ian RS700 GBR960 http://www.sail4cancer.org - www.sail4cancer.org
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 03 Nov 08 at 6:51pm
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The 600 is only a pig downwind in the light (when there isnt enough wind to push the boom out). This is because the kicker pulls the boom into the centre line as you need it slightly tight when the main is right up to be able to grind on enough in the windy stuff. Also you need to sit right forward to get the transom out, by right forward i mean on the foredeck, this is less than ideal for holding the boom out. However once you get into position the boat is reasonably stable especially if you manage to hold the boom out (it's all relative, the 600 is not particularly stable, but compared to it sitting stationary on the slipway it is stable). The rest of the time the boat is a dream, upwind its so nicely balanced and so quick, leaving just about everything apart from canoes and 49ers behind (even 700s You will have to excuse the bias. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: rudderlesslaser
Date Posted: 04 Nov 08 at 5:45am
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thanks guys am still trying to make up my mind..... im 95 kgs an am pretty much a expierenced club (nationals) dinghy sailor. ------------- |
Posted By: Ian29937
Date Posted: 04 Nov 08 at 1:30pm
Never been taken by a 600 on a beat yet! They are just a bit jealous...... But seriously, the 700 is easier than a 600... Ian RS700 http://www.sail4cancer.org - www.sail4cancer.org
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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 04 Nov 08 at 5:07pm
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at 95 kgs i would have a go in vareo you would steam upwind at that weight just a bit quicker than a laser upwind but downwind its just the greatest ride you could have without being on the wire . rs do have test boats that you can try out why not try before you buy you have nothiung to lose
andy ------------- Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest. 2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |