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    Posted: 01 Jun 06 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by 49erGBR735HSC

Its not too good an advert for topper, 12 masts going. We've only snapped battens in those sort of conditions.

 

Hardly Toppers fault -

1.If people ignore the advice to avoid the Hayling Bar it's their own fault not Toppers (I recall a Fireball Nationals with 20+ broken masts in similar conditions). I've been thro the bar in 'very interesting' conditions (mixture of stupidity and bravado) and despite surviving intact certainly wished I hadn't.(Gone over the bar that is).

2. Topper aren't sailing the boat, they aren't the ones capsising and sticking the mast  in the sand.

3. Topper don't even make the masts! - So it's more likely Selden or Superspars who manufacture - but see 1 & 2 above.

Anyone -  in any boat - who capsizes on the bar when it's at its worst and survives with just broken battens is incredibly lucky!



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Hmm many a time have i been warned not to go over the bar and i now see why! Its allright at high tide in a laser cos u can just jump out lol! But if you decide to ignore the host sailing clubs own warning then you are bound to get hurt! Wat idiots!
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Originally posted by jpbuzz591

we were told to go round the beacon but i think with all the swell it was a bit tempting for some to cut between it and when they capsized they just hit the ground as it was so shallow.

Well if you don't follow the advice of the locals you deserve all you get ...
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yes but the worst waves were actually out in our sailing area out in the bay, that was when most of the boats lost masts, and then people went into survival mode and had to get back to shore. Generally speaking, the race officer couldve found out that these conditions were going to happen as he had access to the forecasts but assured us it would be fine, then even before we got to the race area we were caught up in a big swell and the race was postponed for 30 mins before it was abondonded, as boats were all over the place on there side, and with only 4/5 ribs for 55 boats the resuce cover wasnt great as one of those boats was normally laying marks and sorting that stuff out.
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hmmmmm stupid to even go out.sue the ood!only joking
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Out of curiosity

1. What was it blowing

2. What was the sea state

3 If you cant handle it or dont want to break things dont go out.
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It was 4k weather!! :) 
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says it all then.

Any one fancy selling a 4k or know of anyone who needs a crew for the circuit by any chance.
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http://www.laser4000.org.uk/

then go to the fourm and then there are 4ks there and u could put in an add for crew
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the weather was blowing a 5 gusting 6, the sea state was not good, some big waves, 6ft swell, and it looked alrite from the club until you got out to the bar it started to get rough and then very difficult to get back.
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