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    Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 7:43pm

At your weight you are a bit limited.  Two classes which do come to mind are the Splash and Byte - links available from the classes section...... 

The Byte in particular looks good with the new rig..

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Originally posted by Jamie600

How tall are you out of interest?

I'm 5ft5 (165cm). 

I was kind of hoping for something a bit faster/more Xtreme than a Byte.
 
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Going fast comes from having big powerfull sails, which means u have lots of healing moment, which therefore has to be counteracted by righting moment. So if you wanna go fast you either gotta learn to sail when overpowered (get an RS600), face it that u sail a slow boat (get a Byte), or learn to sail a development class where you can personalise the rig (get a moth).

Or of course you could get some friends (preferably heavy ones) and sail a double hander.

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I know it doesn't seem to be that popular now (I may be wrong !)but what about the rs300? 50kgs sounds a bit light for the 600.Tho the moth may be ok

By the way i say this with never having sailed either the 600 or the moth!And I weigh a bit more than 50kgs!

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I think i'm most interested in the 600 having been overpowered in every boat i've ever sailed when the wind gets up and i'll have probably put on another stone or two in a year anyway.  But is it a BIG new thing sailing a single handed trapeze boat or is it just something you get used to.  Also what kind of wind strength would i be able to sail in up to the point when i'm swimming more than i'm sailing?
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at 50kg and 165cm you're way too small for most things. For example you're over 10kg too light for the optimum topper weight, which says something considering it's such a small slow boat!

Get a fast 2 man boat with a single trapeze, and get a gorilla to hang off it eg: fireball.

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Normally I would say that if you wanted something faster and requiring a bit of a learning curve then go for the Contender as I did (I only started getting excited about being in a full rig laser when everyone else was saying no way!!)

At 50kg though I would wait a couple of years and a couple of stone and a couple of inches

"But is it a BIG new thing sailing a single handed trapeze boat or is it just something you get used to" - I bought a Contender having never been on a trapeze let alone been on a single hande trapeze - ask me again in about 6 months ofter I have climbed this everest of a learning curve

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 10:48pm

to be honist i think you are going the rong way about it

i think 50 kilos is on the light side for a 4.7 but i think you should stay with that and get in the teams and things as you have to be about 70 kilos for a radel and i was 75 kilos when i was in the full rig and i was 5 kilos to light you need to be 80kilos for it to be fast

i think you sloukd get a cheep moth that you can sail when you are not racing for fun then see wot you want to do in a year or 2

 

geting a bout you are too small for sounds good at the time but all you do is put your self off stay with the 4.7 and go to all the opens

 

i know this is not wot i done but it is the right thing to do i think from my experuns

 

 

 

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Contender 541 is right, you need to wait a while. Don't forget you are still growing, in fact you are around the age when most people grow fastest, and you do not stop growing til around 20 years old.

Having two boats may be the best option, a 'normal' boat for racing and something a bit more special for fun, or maybe racing in suitable conditions. For the price of a nearly new Laser you could get a reasonable second hand one and have a thousand or so left for an old 600 or Moth.

My first boat was an OK, which normally requires 14-15 stone but I only weighed 9! Let me tell you it is no fun at all being completely blown away.

You need to carry on in something that suits your weight.
Topper, Byte, 4.7, Splash have all been mentioned, but it may be worth also looking at a Europe, which is quicker than most of the others mentioned and a bit more lively, so would at least give an impression of speed.

If you did go for a 600 you would need to reef it in about 12-14 knots of breeze and anything above about 17-18 knots I reckon you would be swimming constantly and very p**sed off with the whole thing.
Bear in mind also that boats like that are designed with adult-sized sailors in mind, so you need to consider things like, can you handle the mainsheet, can you right it from a capsize unassisted, even pulling the thing up the slip at the end of sailing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jan 06 at 11:10am

i think jame600 is talking sense there now

 

but i also think that you should stik with a laser 4.7 or topper for your normal boat as that way you can get the benafit of all the free traniong you can get in them and that way you can do things in the squde

anther idear could be to keep the laser and get nofing sels and save your money and look for a big crew that is your age and get a 29er when you find one then try and get in to the 29er team

but i would not go out and get the boat and look for the crew after that is the mastak i made

just wonduring where do you sail

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