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    Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 8:57am

Enough boys, enough! 
To be honest Callum, I thought that "outburst" Dead of yours would be at home in a primary school playground !  Did you know who Prince Buster (the real one) was before HRH came on the forum? 

Then there's HRH himself... Chill out, dude. Life is too short to be taken seriously .

Now, I hope you will all play nice from now on - Thank you xxx Heart

 

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Originally posted by Prince Buster

Hi,
does anyone know the optimum weight bands for sailing the laser 4.7, radial and standard rigs. I keep getting different opinions from everyone and I'm not really sure what to make of it all.  I'm 50kg and was sailing a 4.7 but now it seems like all the racing is in Radials.  I find it really difficult when it gets windy but I'm not sure whether I should just put up with it to get some good racing or should go back into the 4.7.  How heavy should one be to sail a Radial competitively?
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have you found the answer? Everyone voicing an opinion here tells you to stay clear of Lasers, but hey, if you've got a Laser, go for it!

http://www.blithfield.org.uk/fleets/laser.htm

There's a table of crew weights for the 3 different rigs (in stone, sorry).

Just a question: from your profile, I see you're very young. At 15, you probably haven't reached your adult weight. Are you likely to switch to another boat next year or can you consider growing into a Radial? Besides, all optimum crew weights are only a guide. If you're a good sailor, you can tune a Laser, can't you?



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You can't tune a Laser - on flat water you may be able to get away with being underweight if you are very fit, but the only tuning is pulling loads of downhaul and kicker on which distorts the sail shape and affects pointing.
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Originally posted by Jamie600

You can't tune a Laser - on flat water you may be able to get away with being underweight if you are very fit, but the only tuning is pulling loads of downhaul and kicker on which distorts the sail shape and affects pointing.

Radials at least are notorious for people pulling cunningham eyes out of even brand new sails trying to get more tension on, dont ya just love smods?

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I think the laser's a good boat and it's certainly stood the test of time but i think i will move into something else this season - something with more speed for the effort input!  Also what is meant by smods?  I've seen it said a lot on this forum.
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SMOD = Single Manufacturer One Design, u need to wash ur mouth out everytime u mention 1!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Prince Buster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 6:11pm

That explains a lot!
Apart from moths and RS600s which i've been told to get loads of times can anyone recommend a good lightweight's boat (i'm just over 50kg) that is relatively fast and has good racing?  I really want something other than a laser but a moth seems like it would be more of a lifetime's hobby and i think i'd be too light for a 600.
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Originally posted by Prince Buster


a moth seems like it would be more of a lifetime's hobby


You say that as if if were a bad thing?
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Tricky one.

Generally fast boats have large sail areas which means you need some lard to keep them flat.

The only other way of making a boat go fast is to make it really light, so that's a Moth.   

Maybe look at a Vareo, they are a little quicker than a Laser upwind and you've got the kite to play with downwind.
Not sure what the weight range is on a Vareo, I've only seen adult men racing it so maybe that answers the question.
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Yeah i think you have to be pretty big for the vareo.  I tried one in the summer and i found it quite tough going in pretty light winds.  it's got quite a powerful main.  I don't know if i've just got a warped view on moths but it just seems to me as if it's a lifelong commitment of tinkering and working on the boat to try to improve it and that's not really the kind of thing i'm into.
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How tall are you out of interest?
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