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    Posted: 27 Oct 04 at 2:54pm
A couple of classes have recently had pretty massive inlands entry
numbers - the Solo and the Laser 4000 are two examples which have
caught my eye where the numbers at their inlands were higher than the
class nationals entry this year. Any thoughts why?
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Toppers had a huge 260, inlands entry, compared with 240 for nationals, 3 reasons why i think:

  1. The inlands were more central - Grafham, and the nationals were tucked away  in plymouth
  2. The inlands is les of a commitment for the beach brigade (parents/ parteners) 2 days rather than a week
  3. Nationals are usualy in summer, when many people book their holidays, before the nationals dates are published, whereas inlands are in spring/ autumn.
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I agree, can't wait for Ovi Inlands this weekend, looks like Grafham will be up to its usual tricks .  Anyone else going?
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The inlands were more central - Grafham, and the nationals were tucked away  in plymouth

 

Not sure if I would call Grafham central!! Rutland maybe.......

 

Agree though about the beach brigade issue and commitment. I have never quite understood the need for a nationals in the middle of summer when most people think of leaving for foreign sures - surely a September nationals would make more sense - or October half term time?
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And now all the parents point out how difficult it is to attend a week long (or even 4 day long) event with the kids in tow if it's not school holidays...
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well more central than plymouth sound!

There are too many events down sout- (with toppers anyway), I just feel sorry for the Scots!
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One of the problems with Inlands is finding a venue be enough if you have 200-300 boats! I actually got the feeling this year that a few people did not come because they thought it was going to be so crowded they did not very it as 'fair' racing (last year the was very little wind and the fleet got very stuck together). The Inlands is often viewed as a lower standard than for example National Qualifier events but is often harder to win!!!
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I wonder if the standard is perceived as lower, or the event less serious?

One thing I know puts people off the nationals is that traditionally, you tended to have one long race per day, miles out to sea, so you had a long sail, a long wait,  and if it blew up, a real struggle to get home! A few classes are getting away from this, but perhaps the myth persists? At the inlands, you're not going to be far away from the shore by definition.
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I do not think the standard is lower but there tends to be less of the top guys, as it is usually not part of the National Ranking Series (same quality but less quantity at the top). Most large inlands tend to be at Rutland, Grafham, Carsington, Chew Valley etc. The most popular events tend to be central south coast, Hayling, Stokes Bay etc. (So the Inland venues may be a bit of a drive for the south coast sailors!)
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I feel sorry for me and even more for the scots- the furthest north topper nationwide seies event is at carsington!  which is midlands NOT north by toppper defenition! the inlands are at grafham, at least the nats are at largs- but thats still a long drive for me
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