Inlands
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Category: Dinghy classes
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Topic: Inlands
Posted By: Gael
Subject: Inlands
Date Posted: 27 Oct 04 at 2:54pm
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A couple of classes have recently had pretty massive inlands entry
numbers - the Solo and the Laser 4000 are two examples which have caught my eye where the numbers at their inlands were higher than the class nationals entry this year. Any thoughts why? |
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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 27 Oct 04 at 3:13pm
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Toppers had a huge 260, inlands entry, compared with 240 for nationals, 3 reasons why i think:
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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 27 Oct 04 at 3:38pm
I agree, can't wait for Ovi Inlands this weekend, looks like Grafham will be up to its usual tricks  . Anyone else going?------------- FLAT IS FAST! Shifts Happen |
Posted By: Sarah B
Date Posted: 28 Oct 04 at 9:18am
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[QUOTE=Harry44981!]
The inlands were more central - Grafham, and the nationals were tucked away in plymouth
Not sure if I would call Grafham central!! Rutland maybe.......
Agree though about the beach brigade issue and commitment. I have never quite understood the need for a nationals in the middle of summer when most people think of leaving for foreign sures - surely a September nationals would make more sense - or October half term time? ------------- A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. |
Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 28 Oct 04 at 10:15am
| And now all the parents point out how difficult it is to attend a week long (or even 4 day long) event with the kids in tow if it's not school holidays... |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 28 Oct 04 at 10:29am
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well more central than plymouth sound! There are too many events down sout- (with toppers anyway), I just feel sorry for the Scots! ------------- |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 12 Nov 04 at 10:37pm
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One of the problems with Inlands is finding a venue be enough if you have 200-300 boats! I actually got the feeling this year that a few people did not come because they thought it was going to be so crowded they did not very it as 'fair' racing (last year the was very little wind and the fleet got very stuck together). The Inlands is often viewed as a lower standard than for example National Qualifier events but is often harder to win!!! ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 8:16pm
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I wonder if the standard is perceived as lower, or the event less serious? One thing I know puts people off the nationals is that traditionally, you tended to have one long race per day, miles out to sea, so you had a long sail, a long wait, and if it blew up, a real struggle to get home! A few classes are getting away from this, but perhaps the myth persists? At the inlands, you're not going to be far away from the shore by definition. |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 8:21pm
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I do not think the standard is lower but there tends to be less of the top guys, as it is usually not part of the National Ranking Series (same quality but less quantity at the top). Most large inlands tend to be at Rutland, Grafham, Carsington, Chew Valley etc. The most popular events tend to be central south coast, Hayling, Stokes Bay etc. (So the Inland venues may be a bit of a drive for the south coast sailors!) ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 8:30pm
I feel sorry for me and even more for the scots- the furthest north topper nationwide seies event is at carsington! which is midlands NOT north by toppper defenition! the inlands are at grafham, at least the nats are at largs- but thats still a long drive for me------------- |
Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 8:48pm
carsington....poor you!  ------------- Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum! |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 02 Dec 04 at 8:32pm
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I don't think the standard is lower, I said perhaps it is percieved as lower ( don't want to offend any inland champs!) |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 02 Dec 04 at 8:52pm
| Maybe people just prefer the taste of fresh water? Or could it be the timing? The 300's/Vareo's recently voted to move next years champs away from the trad bank hol, out of term time. It seems like a gamble but there was a clear majority for it in an online poll on their user groups. |