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Coolhand ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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The issue for me is if you come into the race in Silver well clear of Bronze but a threat to the sailor in Gold you'll be sc*%wed - can't see how that fits in with the Olympic ethos. IMHO much better to take in a point for your postion at the end of the fleet races, then add a point for your position at the end of the medal race. Lowest score wins with draws decided by posisition before the medal race.
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laser4000 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 589 |
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I tihnk the medal race format works really well - we've seen: -
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laserboy404 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 14 Mar 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 146 |
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I agree that the medal race and the double points system is flawed because it is too easy for someone to knock you right down the table, even if you have posted a consistent scoreline all week |
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nutonthetiller ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 17 Aug 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 31 |
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My suggestion of a pursuit style;e race would be that the points from the series give you a personal handicap. Rather like on the ITV Gladiators programme. So the leading boat goes on the first whistle etc.
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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Might work as long as the races are in places with sensible wind!!!!!!!!! maybe series for 4 races, drop 50% of the fleet (not probable that they would win a medal from that position anyway). Now, do we reset the points, or carry thru? Now do we do 4 more races and drop 50% more? Means more organisation (less classes if we all have to start at 32 and we know how many problems that can cause!!!!)
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Chew my RS ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 790 |
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How about a radical overhaul of the whole race format at the Olympics? I propose a knockout system rather than a points series. Start with, say, 32 teams. After Race 1 only the top 16 go through to Race 2. Then only the first 8 go through to Race 3. Then the top 4 go through to a medal race. Then those 4 fight it out. One team finishes distraught in 4th and the others relatively happy. It encourages winning the final race rather than covering a large lead gained in the previous 10 races and would provide more drama. It would also be easier to follow.
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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Nonsense, Madison makes perfect sense, just don't lose concentration for a moment, it takes about 10 minutes to find the place again. And they are much better 'in the flesh' when you can see the big picture.
I digress... I think we have learned that the medal races work, as long as there is wind. Finn (Attempt 2), 470, Yngling all gave perfectly good medal races which made sense within the concept. When there was no wind Finn (Attempt 1), Laser, then the concept fell a bit flat as the risk of getting stuck in a hole and losing touch meant the close cover sailing backwards down the fleet was the prime approach. This catapulted the Swede down to 6th from silver, although strangely the positions when the Finn medal race was abandoned would have left Railey in silver. Without going into the precise details of why, the 49er race showed us what happens when all hell breaks loose. People are split over whether this was ultimately a good thing or a bad thing... |
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neilw ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 88 |
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at least the medal race is easier to understand than the Madison
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ASok ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
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Surely that would a possible tactic regardless?
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laser4000 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 589 |
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