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Phil eltringham 
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the phrase comes from WW2 (I think) where the dreadnaught class ships in the german navy had bows where the the foremost point of the vessel was at the base of the bow instead of having the deck level sticking out over the front of the waterline.
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HannahJ
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The Dreadnought was the submarine in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea....
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Tornado_ALIVE
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Never heard of "dreadnaught bows" what is this ment to mean ????? The current trend in cat bows are to reduce the hight of the bows (less windage) with plenty of volume down low whislt not much up high. King of like the shape of a pair if you look at a cross section. This allows water to flow off the top of the hulls easier if the bows are submerged. "Wave peircing" bows |
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Scooby_simon
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As far as know it is all down to reducing "wave making" charactistics of the hulls and thus reducing drag and thus increasing speed.
I've never sailed an A; but if you look at pictures of current boats the rig is fairly far back on the boat so I would guess the pitch-poling tendancies are not too great. |
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Phil eltringham
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Posted: 08 Aug 05 at 11:56am |
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does anyone know the reasoning behind the current trend of dreadnaught bows? is it a way of getting round rules? I'd have thought that it would reduce the volume forward and make pitchpoling easier.
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sailwave
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Hi Gary, > To me an A class is like a racing Exactly. I've pretty much decided on an Auz Flyer now; the A2 is perhaps just tad too radical for me; and the price is silly. Colin |
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Twice Bitten
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Hi Colin,
understand entirely, I have always felt the need to sail an A class but never had the money and I am a bit heavy. A lot of people ask me why I went F16 and it is like you said. It was something I had to do, if I didn't take on the challenge now, I figured I probably wouldn't be physicaly capable of handling it one up in a few years time. Can always retire to A class  .To me an A class is like a racing bicycle, minimum drag no extras, just efficency, a beautiful thing. But I am more of a Horse Power man, that spinnaker is addictive downwind. Just a sailing Petrol Head  .Regards Gary. |
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sailwave
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Hi Gary, Thanks; sounds close. An F16 is a sensible choice for me; I live near a manufacturer, a friend sails one and I have the two-up option, but... and I can't explain it very well... there is something extremely appealing (to me) about trying to get the best out of a single sail on what I see as a beautiful boat. I've just sold my F18 and loved blasting downwind with the kite up; A-Class is just something I have to do... Colin
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Hi Sailwave,
I can help with feedback on One up F16 Vs A class. I have raced against them a number of times on my optimised one up F16. See Roll Call thread I have just posted Pic.of Altered. On windward and return course in under 12 kts. it is faster until it is a drifter (to light to set spinnaker). Over 12 kts. it is neck and neck until 15kts then the A keeps control easier and so far mistakes have stopped me from being competitive over 18 kts. But I am working on it and hope to remain competitive up to wind limit in future, have had less than one season experience on Altered so far most A's I have sailed against have alot more experience than this on their boats. On triangle course, that doesn't allow kite on reaches, the A is quicker pretty much all the time so far as length allows it to press harder on reaches. Regards Gary. |
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