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Mike278 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 256 |
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power carp handles go to about 2meters, but you can get other carbon landing handles up to 9ft long, including telescopic handles |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Thanks, we need 2.5 metres but could probably find something along the
lines of what you've suggested. Mind you, we're just going to
fibreglass tape the ones we've got just now.
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Ralph T ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 36 |
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The ISAF Equipment Committee are meeting today & tomorrow (10/11 Apl) & 40.2 is on the agenda. Presume minutes will appear on web site in the next few weeks |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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I've heard rumours that there is going to be an extension to the date for the legislation to come through, and also heard a lot of the systems currently do not meet EU standards, but could be just dinghy park talk...
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bigwavedave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 944 |
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It will be intereseting to see the minutes from the meeting. The current rule mentions nothing about a hook, quick release or otherwise, it only mentions a device. But what about rule 49.1 Competitors shall use no device designed to position their bodies outboard, other than hiking straps and stiffeners worn under the thighs. Maybe I'm missing something, and no doubt I shall be corrected very shortly, but according to that rule we can't use trapeze harnesses anyway can someone clarify this for me please.
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bigwavedave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 944 |
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Ooops, sorry, Just read back through some previous threads and it seems that this has already been discussed. Oh well back to the VAT. |
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lozza ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 262 |
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The RYA site has published its report into entrapments, its concludes that there is no clear pattern in the cause of incidents. Also it concludes that neither the experience of the sailor nor the equipment used suggested a single dominant factor in the incidents recorded. Seems there should be more conclusive evidence before making such a big rule change on harnesses. http://www.rya.org.uk/images/uploaded/93ce8ee5-f220-43a3-874 9-bc7d260137d8/Entrapments_Paper.pdf |
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lozza ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 262 |
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RYA summary: Pioneering research conducted by the RYA has shown that dinghy sailing is still a very safe sport with the statistical risk to a sailor of getting stuck under their boat following a capsize extremely small Lack of research into dinghy entrapments and heightened public awareness prompted the RYA to initiate a research programme focusing on identifying trends in incident figures, common contributing factors and the most effective rescue techniques. The statistical risk appeared to be small, but there was no research on the subject to underpin this assumption. As well as setting up a mechanism for dinghy sailors to log incidents, the RYA looked into ways of preventing entrapments by examining boat design and by developing and testing the most effective rescue techniques. Forty four incidents were logged during 2003 and 2004 via the RYA website. In addition, air gap tests were conducted under a range of boats, a range of rescue techniques tested and discussions took place with the major dinghy manufacturers. Key findings were;
Due to the lack of previous data it is impossible to establish a trend or an indication as to whether entrapments are on the increase, but there is no specific reason to think that they are. Edited by lozza |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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As we've mentioned before, it's good house keeping on the boat that prevents accidents. From discussing points on this thread, we've came up with an action plan for if the worst comes to the worst. We've set out certain procedures, and feel more confident in knowing what to do if the unthinkable happens. My simple advice is that other boats work out procedures for worst case scenarios so they can confidently deal with these situations if they ever occur.
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bigwavedave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 944 |
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Well ISAF have just published the minutes from the equipment meeting. At least they are aware that there is a problem with the rule. Well done to the RYA for all their efforts. It will be interesting to see what ISAF come up with. Since it is now May, they should have an answer, but I for one will not be holding my breath waiting for it. 3. RRS 40.2 – QUICK RELEASE HARNESS The Committee noted the wording of RRS 40.2 which is to be effective 1 January 2006. They considered the results of the ISAF questionnaire on entrapment circulated February 2005 and the responses to the questionnaire. The Committee in particular noted the report on “ RYA Research into Dinghy Entrapments” Whilst the committee supported the intent of the new RRS 40.2 it was concerned that wider issues than harness hooks need to be addressed. Better education of competitors, race organisers and rescue personnel is essential. Decision 1. On a unanimous vote, proposed by Darren Dunkley-Smith and seconded by Philippe Rogge it was agreed that the wording of RRS 40.2 is not adequate for its intended purpose as it creates problems of interpretation and implementation. 2. It was agreed to circulate the Committee with a proposal for a resolution to this matter by the end of April. |
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