Harness Haze

   Scooby_simon mentions carrying bolt cutters. Bolt cutters don't do a very good job of cutting wire rope because of their action - the cutting edges butt one another. Wire cutters use  a different action where the cutting edges cross one another (like pruning shears) and are much more effective. Wire cutters for cutting up to 4mm wire are quite small at about six inches high and can easily be stored on a rescue boat 

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Buzz Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Jun 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 101	Post Options Post Reply Quote Buzz Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Harness Haze Posted: 05 Apr 05 at 1:33pm
	Scooby_simon mentions carrying bolt cutters. Bolt cutters don't do a very good job of cutting wire rope because of their action - the cutting edges butt one another. Wire cutters use a different action where the cutting edges cross one another (like pruning shears) and are much more effective. Wire cutters for cutting up to 4mm wire are quite small at about six inches high and can easily be stored on a rescue boat

hurricane Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047	Post Options Post Reply Quote hurricane Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 05 at 3:33pm
	all our safety boats carry wire cutters and are tested often!! all clubs should have them and maintain them!
	lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007

Contender443 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211	Post Options Post Reply Quote Contender443 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Apr 05 at 5:56pm
	You need to know what to do with wire cutters though. If you cut away a rig on an inverted boat then it could be punched through the hull and cause the whole lot to sink. You would also cause more loose itemns in the water to get trapped round the person in the water or round a safety boat propellor. What if the rig sinks then taking the trapped person to the bottom with it. Best thing I think is to try and right the boat ASAP.
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Buzz Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Jun 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 101	Post Options Post Reply Quote Buzz Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 05 at 2:21pm
	Usually cutting the rig away is when you have run out of other options. We had to cut a rig out of an RS800 last season. The crew were very cold and tired having been in the water for over twenty minutes. We had three rescue boats in attendance all with motors off. We got the boat on its side and agreed how we were going to remove the rig. When we came to actually cut the rig we put the crew in one of the rescue boats. After the rig was all sorted out we put the crew back in their boat and towed it in while the other brought the remains of the rig.

49erGBR735HSC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote 49erGBR735HSC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 05 at 5:22pm
	GUL have a new bouancy aid out which seems really stream line and doesn't look like it's got to much foam in it. Saw one at the weekend and could hardly beleive how thin it was. Could be better for swimming.
	Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 Helensburgh S.C Boat Insurance from Noble Marine

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 05 at 6:35pm
	yer that would be good if you were going to do lots of swimming!!
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Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 05 at 9:06pm
	Yeah when i did my canoeing stuff we got told to cpasise the boat with a spray deck on and then rigt it from a capsise, then we had to learn how to right the boat without getting out of it......then you stay dry with the spray deck on
	-[Franko]- Chew Valley Lake Sailing Club RS600 933

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 4:37pm
	yer i hate capsizing in a canoe it is probily more dangerous than a siling capsize and if anything the canoes need quick release stuff!!
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49erGBR735HSC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote 49erGBR735HSC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 7:49pm
	Does anyone know if the Bethwaite harness is legal next year because technically it doesn't have a quick release system because it doesn't need one, and doesn't the rule say ALL harnesses must have a quick release device. If it's legal, it may be the route we'll take on our boat. Alternatively, the new Magic Marine spreader bars look sorted, no plasticy stuff or fiddly bits. Might get them if they are as good as they look in the magazines. Edited by 49erGBR735HSC
	Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 Helensburgh S.C Boat Insurance from Noble Marine

Spot192 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 28 Nov 04 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 833	Post Options Post Reply Quote Spot192 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 7:52pm
	i bought one of those bethwait harnesses. i really hated it! the system isn´t very good and not even bethwaite sails with this harness!