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    Posted: 12 May 23 at 6:24am
Originally posted by Do Different

Basic principles of the rules are sufficient for safe and predictable racing, coupled of course with a degree of anticipation and foresight.

I agree. The rules do not require anticipation, but I find it is generally a faster way around the course if I do anticipate what others might do, especially on a small pond.
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Basic principles of the rules are sufficient for safe and predictable racing, coupled of course with a degree of anticipation and foresight.
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You can just picture it  Angry tiller in one hand, main sheet in the other and a rule book in the other  Confused no problem getting jumpers though, I have one, it's ok, just the one sleeve is a bit longer than the other two  Smile
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Originally posted by Old Timer

Originally posted by 423zero

Use of rules is clearly a personal approach, I wouldn't join a club with lots of rule book sailors.

I don't think there are any clubs with "rule book" sailors ... but there are a lot of sailors who seems to have no idea of the rules. I suspect these people create more chaos on the water than those that are perceived to be rule bashers ... then they just moan that others are rule bashers where as actually the main issue is their ignorance.

That’s been my experience too. 
It’s a lot less stressful and a lot easier to race with people that have grasped the basic rules . As you can concentrate more on tactics and boat speed .
( But it’s still most important not to ever be ‘ shouty ‘ to new or inexperienced sailors and to help them understand the rules ) 
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Completely agree regarding observing rules and taking rights for the avoidance of misunderstandings in tight situations.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Use of rules is clearly a personal approach, I wouldn't join a club with lots of rule book sailors.

I don't think there are any clubs with "rule book" sailors ... but there are a lot of sailors who seems to have no idea of the rules. I suspect these people create more chaos on the water than those that are perceived to be rule bashers ... then they just moan that others are rule bashers where as actually the main issue is their ignorance.
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Got it, just reread your post on page 5, was confused by a post stating any fixed part of the boat.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Use of rules is clearly a personal approach, I wouldn't join a club with lots of rule book sailors. I prefer a more relaxed club, plus, I go out of my way to avoid on the water issues.


If the first point of the boat to cross the line gives you the win, say the end of the bow sprit, then boat hull touches the mark, is it a rule infringement?

You finish when the first part of the hull crosses the line not bow sprit or any other part (this changed in the last RRS update) but you are still racing until you have cleared the line so, yes, it is a rule infringement.


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One of the advantages of having a number of dinghy sailors well versed in the rules is that I find that their dinghy course and actions are far more predictable than someone who doesn't know as much.
Obviously, anyone not completely au fait with the rules is still welcome, but we need to keep more attention on them.
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Use of rules is clearly a personal approach, I wouldn't join a club with lots of rule book sailors. I prefer a more relaxed club, plus, I go out of my way to avoid on the water issues.


If the first point of the boat to cross the line gives you the win, say the end of the bow sprit, then boat hull touches the mark, is it a rule infringement?
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